When should I be converting to units?

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The discussion revolves around the appropriate timing for unit conversion in mathematical operations, specifically when squaring measurements. Participants explore whether to convert units before or after performing multiplication, using examples involving centimeters and meters.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the correct approach to unit conversion, providing an example with (20 cm)² and (0.2 m)², and expresses confusion about the results.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding definitions, stating that 100 cm equals 1 meter and explaining the relationship between square centimeters and square meters.
  • A later reply clarifies that a square meter is 10,000 square centimeters, reinforcing the correct conversion process and confirming that both methods yield the same result.
  • One participant expresses relief at understanding the concept after receiving clarification.

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Participants generally agree on the mathematical relationships between units, but there is an initial confusion regarding the timing of conversions that is addressed through clarification.

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The discussion highlights the need for clear definitions and the potential for misunderstanding when converting units, particularly in squared measurements. Some assumptions about participants' prior knowledge may not be fully addressed.

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I am new to the forum, and I am sure it will be evident by this first question, but I hope to learn a lot here.

so.. here is what I was thinking about that prompted me to look for a math forum. Say I have (20cm)2. That would be 400 square centimeters, or, 4 square meters? Now, what if I convert to meters before squaring? Then, I have (0.2 m)2, or .04 square meters... 4 square centimeters? Why does this not work? When should I be converting to units? Before or after multiplication.

Thanks for any input.
 
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That is because you are making wrong analogies. You need to start with definitions you know for sure. As defined, you have:

100cm = 1 meter.
If you have 0.2 meters, how many cm do you have?

Now squaring both sides you have:

10000cm^2 = 1 meter^2.

If 1 square meter is 10000 square cm, then how many square cm is 0.04 square meters?
 
silverdiesel said:
I am new to the forum, and I am sure it will be evident by this first question, but I hope to learn a lot here.
so.. here is what I was thinking about that prompted me to look for a math forum. Say I have (20cm)2. That would be 400 square centimeters, or, 4 square meters? Now, what if I convert to meters before squaring? Then, I have (0.2 m)2, or .04 square meters... 4 square centimeters? Why does this not work? When should I be converting to units? Before or after multiplication.
Thanks for any input.


A meter is 100 cm but a square meter is not 100 square cm! In fact, a square meter is (100)2= 10000 square cm.

(20 cm)2= 400 square cm = 400/10000= 0.04 square meters, exactly as if you had squared (0.2 m)2= 0.04 square meters.
 
Ah, perfect. I knew there was somthing very simple I was missing.
Thank you.:-p
 

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