Where Can I Find Pauli's Original Proof of the Spin-Statistics Theorem?

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The discussion revolves around locating Pauli's original proof of the spin-statistics theorem. Participants share various resources and suggestions for accessing the document, including links to online versions and advice on utilizing physical libraries.

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  • One participant requests a link to Pauli's original proof, expressing difficulty in finding it.
  • Another suggests checking Wikipedia as a potential resource.
  • Some participants believe there should be a free copy available online.
  • A suggestion is made to visit a local physics library to obtain a copy.
  • One participant mentions having a scanned PDF version of the document but cannot share it directly on the forum.
  • Concerns are raised about copyright issues related to sharing the document among forum members.
  • Multiple links to related papers and resources are provided, including one to a later paper by Pauli on the connection between spin and statistics.
  • Technical details about the Feynman propagator and its relation to Pauli's work are discussed, though they stray from the main topic of finding the original proof.
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Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of Pauli's original proof, with multiple competing views on how to access it and concerns about copyright issues remaining unresolved.

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could anyone post a link to Pauli's original proof of spin-statistics theorem.have been looking for a long time.could'nt find any.
thanks.
 
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Tried wikipedia?

http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PR/v58/i8/p716_1
 
I'm sure there has to be a free copy of it, somewhere...

Daniel.
 
Drop by your local physics library and download it for free onto your USB hard drive (sometimes called memory stick). Failing that, you can always photocopy it out of the stacks.

Carl
 
i have a sick library around.wish i could get it on the net.even a modified version will be good for a start,heard its pretty deep.
 
I got a .PDF file of ~622KB with a scanned version. Too bad i can't attach it on this forums...

Daniel.
 
could u mail it to me.it would be great.
 
dextercioby said:
I got a .PDF file of ~622KB with a scanned version. Too bad i can't attach it on this forums...

Daniel.
If you email it to me I will host it.
 
Guys; aren’t there copyright issues on things like that?

Don’t the mentors here have to remove posts and known links to stolen material that violates copyright ownership.

It is one thing to get a library copy for private use, but sharing between members here and providing free access to everyone across the entire internet is not a valid version of private use.
 
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CarlB said:

The Connection Between Spin and Statistics
W. Pauli Princeton, New Jersey (Received August 19, 1940)

Amazingly, I now see that Pauli comes up here with the Feynman propagator
for the KG equation (18) in position space, in 1940(!) after first presenting the
causal Klein Gordon propagator (15).

He then goes on to dismiss it with the words:

"Theories which would make use of the D1 function in their quantization
would be very much different from the known theories in their consequences."


This because of the propagation outside the light cone...
Regards, Hans

PS:

D = Klein Gordon Causal propagator in 4d position space
F = Klein Gordon Causal propagator in 2d position space
D1 = Feynman KG propagator in 4d position space
F1 = Feynman KG propagator in 2d position space

PPS: The domains (x0>r) etcetera are mixed up in (18)
 
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Just for reference, see also this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=217846


1+1 dimensional Feynman KG propagator in position space:

[tex]D^2_F(x,y) = \lim_{\epsilon \to 0} \frac{1}{(2 \pi)^2} \int d^2p \, \frac{e^{-ip(x-y)}}{p^2 - m^2 + i\epsilon} <br /> = \left \{ \begin{matrix}<br /> \ \ \ \frac{1}{4} H_0^{(1)}(ms) & \textrm{ if }\, s^2 \geq 0 \\<br /> -\frac{i }{ 2 \pi} K_0(ms) & \textrm{if }\, s^2 < 0<br /> \end{matrix} \right. \qquad \qquad s^2\ =\ |x^0 - y^0|^2 - |\vec{x} - \vec{y}|^2[/tex]


3+1 dimensional Feynman KG propagator in position space:

[tex]D^4_F(x,y) = \lim_{\epsilon \to 0} \frac{1}{(2 \pi)^4} \int d^4p \, \frac{e^{-ip(x-y)}}{p^2 - m^2 + i\epsilon} <br /> = \left \{ \begin{matrix}<br /> -\frac{1}{4 \pi} \delta(s^2) + \frac{m}{8 \pi s} H_1^{(1)}(ms) & \textrm{ if }\, s^2 \geq 0 \\<br /> -\frac{i m}{ 4 \pi^2 s} K_1(ms) & \textrm{if }\, s^2 < 0<br /> \end{matrix} \right.[/tex]


And the relation between the two is:

[tex]D^4_F(s)\ =\ \frac{1}{\pi}\ \frac{\partial}{\partial (s^2)}\ D^2_F(s)<br /> \qquad \left(= \frac{1}{2\pi s}\ \frac{\partial}{\partial s}\ D^2_F(s)\ \right)[/tex]

Regards, Hans
 

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