Where can I find scintillation properties for xenon gas?

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The discussion revolves around the scintillation properties of xenon gas, specifically seeking information on photon yield, time constants, and other related parameters. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of scintillation in the context of simulations, particularly using Geant4.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding scintillation properties for xenon gas despite extensive searching.
  • Another participant suggests resources but is uncertain about their relevance, proposing that simulations might be necessary to derive the needed information.
  • A participant questions the relevance of photon yield for gas, noting that it is typically associated with crystals, and asks about the application context.
  • One participant shares a sample code for defining scintillation properties in Geant4, detailing various parameters such as refractive index, absorption length, and scintillation components.
  • Another participant acknowledges their inability to assist further but provides a link to a publication that may contain relevant information.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of scintillation properties for xenon gas, and multiple viewpoints regarding the relevance and application of photon yield in gases versus solids are presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific scintillation properties sought.

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The discussion highlights the lack of readily available data on scintillation properties for xenon gas and the potential need for simulations to derive these properties. There are also unresolved questions about the applicability of certain parameters typically associated with solid materials.

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I am trying to find scintillation properties for xenon gas (such as the photon yield, the time constant, etc.) but so far I have come up with nothing. I searched Google, I've looked at the local library and I've searched various journals, but to no avail. Does anyone know where I would be able to find such information?

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ultimateguy said:
I am trying to find scintillation properties for xenon gas (such as the photon yield, the time constant, etc.)

Photon yield for a gas ? Why ? Usually light yield concerns cristals.
What is the application ?
 
I am doing a simulation in Geant4 with a xenon gas filled cylinder, and I need to take into account scintillation. Geant4 requires that the user sets the scintillation properties of the material. The simulation consists of pretty much electrons and gamma rays only.

Edit: here is a sample of code in which you define scintillation (C++ code):

const G4int nEntries = 32;

G4double PhotonEnergy[nEntries] =
{ 2.034*eV, 2.068*eV, 2.103*eV, 2.139*eV,
2.177*eV, 2.216*eV, 2.256*eV, 2.298*eV,
2.341*eV, 2.386*eV, 2.433*eV, 2.481*eV,
2.532*eV, 2.585*eV, 2.640*eV, 2.697*eV,
2.757*eV, 2.820*eV, 2.885*eV, 2.954*eV,
3.026*eV, 3.102*eV, 3.181*eV, 3.265*eV,
3.353*eV, 3.446*eV, 3.545*eV, 3.649*eV,
3.760*eV, 3.877*eV, 4.002*eV, 4.136*eV };
//
// Water
//
G4double RefractiveIndex1[nEntries] =
{ 1.3435, 1.344, 1.3445, 1.345, 1.3455,
1.346, 1.3465, 1.347, 1.3475, 1.348,
1.3485, 1.3492, 1.35, 1.3505, 1.351,
1.3518, 1.3522, 1.3530, 1.3535, 1.354,
1.3545, 1.355, 1.3555, 1.356, 1.3568,
1.3572, 1.358, 1.3585, 1.359, 1.3595,
1.36, 1.3608};

G4double Absorption1[nEntries] =
{3.448*m, 4.082*m, 6.329*m, 9.174*m, 12.346*m, 13.889*m,
15.152*m, 17.241*m, 18.868*m, 20.000*m, 26.316*m, 35.714*m,
45.455*m, 47.619*m, 52.632*m, 52.632*m, 55.556*m, 52.632*m,
52.632*m, 47.619*m, 45.455*m, 41.667*m, 37.037*m, 33.333*m,
30.000*m, 28.500*m, 27.000*m, 24.500*m, 22.000*m, 19.500*m,
17.500*m, 14.500*m };

G4double ScintilFast[nEntries] =
{ 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00,
1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00,
1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00,
1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00,
1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 };
G4double ScintilSlow[nEntries] =
{ 0.01, 1.00, 2.00, 3.00, 4.00, 5.00, 6.00,
7.00, 8.00, 9.00, 8.00, 7.00, 6.00, 4.00,
3.00, 2.00, 1.00, 0.01, 1.00, 2.00, 3.00,
4.00, 5.00, 6.00, 7.00, 8.00, 9.00, 8.00,
7.00, 6.00, 5.00, 4.00 };

G4MaterialPropertiesTable* myMPT1 = new G4MaterialPropertiesTable();
myMPT1->AddProperty("RINDEX", PhotonEnergy, RefractiveIndex1,nEntries);
myMPT1->AddProperty("ABSLENGTH", PhotonEnergy, Absorption1, nEntries);
myMPT1->AddProperty("FASTCOMPONENT",PhotonEnergy, ScintilFast, nEntries);
myMPT1->AddProperty("SLOWCOMPONENT",PhotonEnergy, ScintilSlow, nEntries);

myMPT1->AddConstProperty("SCINTILLATIONYIELD",50./MeV);
myMPT1->AddConstProperty("RESOLUTIONSCALE",1.0);
myMPT1->AddConstProperty("FASTTIMECONSTANT", 1.*ns);
myMPT1->AddConstProperty("SLOWTIMECONSTANT",10.*ns);
myMPT1->AddConstProperty("YIELDRATIO",0.8);

Water->SetMaterialPropertiesTable(myMPT1);
 
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