Where Did I Go Wrong in Simplifying this Algebraic Expression?

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of the algebraic expression -d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)]. Participants are examining the steps taken to simplify the expression and identifying potential errors in the process. The scope includes algebraic manipulation and clarification of notation.

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  • One participant presents their simplification steps and arrives at 5d^2-9d-2, questioning where they went wrong since an external tool provides a different result.
  • Another participant points out a possible error in the distribution of the negative sign and mentions a potential typo regarding the "+" sign in front of the bracket.
  • A third participant emphasizes the importance of notation, suggesting that the lack of clear exponent indication makes the expression difficult to interpret.
  • Another participant asserts that the simplification process incorrectly assumes that adding two negative terms results in a positive, which is not accurate.

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Participants express differing views on the simplification steps and the interpretation of notation. There is no consensus on the correct simplification or the nature of the errors made.

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Some participants highlight the need for clearer notation, particularly regarding exponents, which may affect the understanding of the expression. There are unresolved aspects regarding the distribution of terms and the handling of negative signs.

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Simplify [itex]-d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)][/itex]

[itex]-d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)][/itex]

[itex]d^2[-9d-2+4d^2][/itex]

[itex]d^2+4d^2-9d-2[/itex]

[itex]5d^2-9d-2[/itex]

but wolfram says the answer is

[itex]-5d^2-9d+2[/itex]

What did I do wrong?
 
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uperkurk said:
Simplify [itex]-d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)][/itex]

[itex]-d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)][/itex]

[itex]d^2[-9d-2+4d^2][/itex]
Here is your error- first, you have dropped the "+" in front of the "[" but that may be just a typo- more importantly you have distributed the "-" in front of [itex]d^2[/itex] into the [itex][9d+(2- 4d^2)[/itex]. Where you were supposed to have -A+ B, you have A- B.

[itex]d^2+4d^2-9d-2[/itex]

[itex]5d^2-9d-2[/itex]

but wolfram says the answer is

[itex]-5d^2-9d+2[/itex]

What did I do wrong?
 
−d2+[9d+(2−4d2)]

−d2+9d+2−4d2

-5d2 + 9d − 2
 
Without any indication that the 2 in d2 is an exponent, what you have here is close to meaningless.
marie.phd said:
−d2+[9d+(2−4d2)]

−d2+9d+2−4d2

-5d2 + 9d − 2
At a minimum, use ^ to indicate exponents, and = for expressions that are equal, like this:

-d^2 + [9d + (2 − 4d^2)]
= -d^2 + 9d + 2 - 4d^2
= -5d^2 + 9d + 2

Even better is to write exponents that actually look like exponents, using the exponent feature that is available when you click Go advanced.

-5d2 + 9d + 2
 
uperkurk said:
Simplify [itex]-d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)][/itex]

[itex]-d^2+[9d+(2-4d^2)][/itex]
[itex]-d^2- 4d^2= -5d^2[/itex]
You seem to be under the impresion that adding two negatives gives a positive. That is not true. That rule only holds for multiplication and division.

[itex]d^2[-9d-2+4d^2][/itex]

[itex]d^2+4d^2-9d-2[/itex]

[itex]5d^2-9d-2[/itex]

but wolfram says the answer is

[itex]-5d^2-9d+2[/itex]

What did I do wrong?
 

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