Where do I place the bearings for a stable inclined rotating drum?

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Homework Help Overview

The original poster is designing a rotary drum dryer and seeks to determine the positions of the bearings necessary for stability. The drum has specific dimensions and is inclined at a small angle while rotating at a given speed. The problem involves calculating distances related to the center of mass and moments acting on the drum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use moments to find the center of mass of the inclined cylinder but expresses uncertainty about the calculations. Some participants suggest that the center of mass for a uniform cylinder remains at the midpoint, even when inclined, and question the necessity of considering the small angle of inclination.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the center of mass and the implications of the drum's inclination. Some guidance has been offered about the center of mass location, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Homework Statement


I am basically designing a rotary drum dryer and need to know the positions of the bearings for the dryer to be stable.
The drum is of length 17 m with diameter 3.24 m, inclined at 2° rotating at 3.24 rpm. I need to find the distance X and OY. (Given that Y passes through the center of mass) Weight of the drum =280 kN

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Homework Equations



Moment= F x D = WD ;
Moment CW = Moment ACW


The Attempt at a Solution


I am trying to solve this using moments. But I am stuck with finding the centre of mass of the inclined cylinder.

According to me (and after reading alignments of rotary drum, they did not take into consideration the inclination), X can be found by : (17/2)/2 =4.25m (Is that possible?)
 
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Not sure I will be around over the next few days to help but I suggest you post a diagram providing more detail such as roughly where the bearings are.

Are these the bearings that the drum spins in OR the bearings that the drum pivots about when changing inclination to tip the contents out or ??

2 degrees is quite a small angle.. not far off horizontal..so why do you think it needs to be taken into account?

I am stuck with finding the centre of mass of the inclined cylinder.

Finding the centre of mass of an inclined cylinder is quite trivial. So I think you might be asking the wrong question?

Lets say that the drum is uniform and the centre of mass is mid way between the ends when viewed horizontally (eg 17/2 = 8.5m from one end). Then when inclined it will still be mid way between the ends when inclined. See diagram.

A = 0.5*17*Cos(0) = 8.5m
B = 0.5*17*Cos(2) = 8.4948m

Similarly if the centre of mass is say 1/3rd of the way from one end.
 

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PS. Just noticed you tried to post a diagram but I can't see it or open it.
 
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