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Every resource I've looked at just lists the axioms but doesn't tell how or why they were arrived at. To what extent are they arbitrary?
The discussion revolves around the origins and nature of the vector space axioms, exploring their development, arbitrariness, and connections to physical and geometric systems. Participants examine both the historical context and the mathematical foundations of these axioms, considering their implications in linear algebra and beyond.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the origins and nature of the vector space axioms, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.
Some participants highlight the complexity of stating the axioms succinctly while balancing the need for simplicity in teaching versus the desire for a minimal set of axioms. There are also references to the cultural implications of the axioms and their relation to physical systems.
Consider the set ##\mathbb R^2=\{(x,y)|x,y\in\mathbb R\}## of ordered pairs of real numbers. If we define the addition of two arbitrary members of this set byJamesGold said:Every resource I've looked at just lists the axioms but doesn't tell how or why they were arrived at. To what extent are they arbitrary?
JamesGold said:To what extent are they arbitrary?
The best one can hope to prove is that there is a vector space in the branch of mathematics defined by this other set of axioms. If you just supply the missing details from what I said about ##\mathbb R^2## above, you're almost done with such a proof.Stephen Tashi said:If you want to find a lower level mathematical system that can be used to prove the axioms of vector space, I don't know of any work that has done that, but someone else on the forum probably does.