Where Does the Block Come to Rest After Launching from a Spring?

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The discussion centers on determining the final resting position of a .190 kg block launched from a spring with a spring constant of 200 N/m, compressed by .15 m. The block travels over a frictionless surface before encountering a frictional zone with a coefficient of friction of .27, extending 85 cm. The potential energy of the spring is calculated as 2.25 J, while the work done by friction is 0.427329 J, leading to a net energy of 1.82 J. The participants conclude that without additional information about the curvature of the rise, the final position can only be expressed in terms of height above the flat plane.

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A .190 kg block is compressing a spring k = 200 N/m for a dist. of .15m. The spring is mounted horizontally and the surface directly under it is frictionless. But beyond the equilibrium position of the spring end, the surface has a coefficient of friction u = .27. The frictional surface extends 85 cm, followed by a frictionless curved rise. After launch where does the block finally come to rest. MEasure from the left end of the frictional zone.

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Well the first thing I do is find the PE of the spring. PE = .5 k x^2 = 2.25 J
Secondly, I figure out the Work caused the by the frictional patch. W = .190*g*.27*.85 = .427329 J

Then I subtract them 1.82 J and this is where I get stuck, since I don't know the curvature of the curve, how am I supposed to figure out when it comes to rest? I can figure out the velocity at the end of the patch and I can also figure out the height from mgh = 1.82J, but that still doesn't take into account the curve... I've also thought about trying kinematic equations, but that doesn't seem to work either.
 
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Perhaps you are answering your own question, in that you can determine the height above the flat plane the block would rising using mgh. Without any additional information regarding the curve I think that answer would suffice.
 
Hello,

I didn't run through your numbers, so not sure if they're accurate or not, but I wanted to say that seeing as you don't know how curved the curved rise is, I think its perfectly acceptable to express your answer in terms of height off of the ground. You could go further, and assume a constant curvature, and calculate the distance based on the radius of curvature or whatever, but I don't really see how that's any more rigorous or accurate than expressing it as height off of the ground.

But I don't know your teacher, so YMMV :P That kind of ancillary calculation after the fact seems immaterial to the physics concepts being asked here, IMHO.
 

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