Solving Friction & Spring Homework: .75kg Mass, 12000N/m Spring

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The problem involves a .75kg mass moving across a frictionless surface, encountering a rough patch with friction, and subsequently colliding with a spring. The objective is to determine the compression of the spring when the mass comes to rest.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations of frictional force and work done by friction, as well as the initial kinetic energy of the mass. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of the problem statement and whether the mass can actually reach the spring given the conditions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the calculations of frictional force and energy, while others suggest that the mass does not reach the spring due to the energy loss from friction. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the initial conditions and potential errors in the problem setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a possible typo in the problem statement that could affect the outcome, and there is discussion about the minimum velocity required for the mass to pass through the rough patch.

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Homework Statement



A mass of .75kg moves at 1.043m/s across a frictionless surface. Then it hits a .5m rough patch which has a coefficient of friction of .25. After moving through the rough patch, it continues on a frictionless surface. The mass then collides with a long spring. The spring coefficient is 12000N/m. Calculate how far the spring is compressed when the block just comes to rest.

Homework Equations



Spring Potential energy=.5*k*x^2
Kinetic Energy=.5*m*v^2
Friction force=μ(Fn)

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried finding the frictional force to be -1.837N and the the work due to friction to be -.9187J. Then I found the initial Kinetic Energy to be .408J. I am stuck here because the oeverall energy would be negative which means I can't find the answer involving the spring. How do I solve this correctly.
 
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Seahawks said:
I tried finding the frictional force to be -1.837N and the the work due to friction to be -.9187J. Then I found the initial Kinetic Energy to be .408J. I am stuck here because the oeverall energy would be negative which means I can't find the answer involving the spring. How do I solve this correctly.
Your calculations look correct. Must be a typo or mistake in the problem statement. (If it's from a textbook, give a reference.)

Have you posted the question exactly as given, word for word?
 
You're right. The mass never makes it to the spring.
 
Yeah, there must have been a typo or something. If you set your initial kinetic energy equal to the frictional force times the distance, you'll find that the object stops after .2218 meters on the rough patch, so there's no way for it to get past it.

In fact, the absolute minimum velocity to get past the rough patch would be about 1.567 m/s.
 

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