Which areas of maths are from which fundamental areas

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The discussion revolves around the historical development of mathematics and its relationship to various branches of physics. Participants explore how different areas of mathematics, such as set theory, algebra, and topology, relate to fundamental concepts in physics and how they evolved over time.

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  • One participant categorizes various fields of physics and associates them with corresponding areas of mathematics, such as classical mechanics with calculus and linear algebra.
  • Another participant notes the ambiguity in whether the inquiry is about the historical development of mathematics or its structural relationships.
  • It is mentioned that while mathematics appears orderly, its evolution has been non-linear, with significant developments occurring at different times, such as the introduction of zero.
  • A suggestion is made to seek out books that cover the desired material and to backtrack to foundational texts for better understanding.
  • A recommendation is provided for a specific book, "Mathematical Thought from Ancient to Modern Times" by Morris Kline, which discusses the historical development of mathematics.

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Participants generally agree on the interest in the historical evolution of mathematics, but there is no consensus on the best approach to understanding this evolution or the specific resources to use.

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There is uncertainty regarding the specific order of mathematical development and how various branches interconnect. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the historical context of mathematical concepts.

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Hello,

I am a physics student and have catagorised most of physics, e.g classical mechanics, relativistic mechanics, quantum mechanics and quantum field theory, and have also identified all the mathematics involved in each of these catagories.
For example classical mechanics involves Calculus, Differential Equations, Vector Analysis, Calculus of variations and Linear algebra (matrcies and tensors). So on a so forth for each category. (large/small, fast/slow).

Now I am looking for a flow or web diagram of how mathematics developed. To elaborate, I need a diagram that starts with the fundamentals of mathematics such as set theory, category theory, and shows that these lead onto algebra and topology, and that these with real analysis and geometry lead to differential geometry etc.

I am not confident with this order and thus don't know where to start to have a full appreciation/understanding, for example, using matrices to solve simultaneous equations does mean I understand linear algebra.

Thanks
P.S Here is a TED talk on the beauty and truth of physical theory (provided you know the fundamentals)
https://www.ted.com/talks/murray_gell_mann_on_beauty_and_truth_in_physics
 
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It's not clear if you are looking for the historical development of mathematics or something else. Arithmetic and geometry are two of the oldest branches of mathematics, but things like set theory and topology are relatively recent developments. For example, no one started with set theory and said to himself, "I'll invent algebra now!" Although mathematics appears to be built on an orderly structure, it definitely did not evolve that way. Even our number system has evolved in fits and starts over the centuries, starting with positive integers, then fractions, negative numbers, etc. The concept of zero as a number was a great innovation and not only for making calculations.
 
The history slash evolvement of mathematics is what I am looking for, however now that you've said that, it seems that I should get a book on the material I want to learn, and then back track to other books that cover the material that I don't understand in that book.
 
samgrace said:
The history slash evolvement of mathematics is what I am looking for, however now that you've said that, it seems that I should get a book on the material I want to learn, and then back track to other books that cover the material that I don't understand in that book.

If you are interested in a good technical and historical survey of the development of mathematics, I recommend Mathematical Thought from Ancient to Modern Times, by Morris Kline (3 vol.)



This work discusses the historical development of mathematics and gives some descriptions of the mathematics involved. Some of his other works may interest you as well. You should be able to find Mathematical Thought in your college library or a public library if you don't want to purchase it.

You can also use Amazon to search for other books dealing with the development of particular mathematical topics of interest.
 

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