Which Equation Correctly Represents the Planck Distribution?

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The discussion centers around the correct representation of the Planck distribution equation, specifically addressing the form of the exponential function involved. Participants explore the ambiguity in the notation used and clarify the mathematical expressions related to blackbody radiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the expression should be written as \( e^{\frac{hf}{kT}} - 1 \), while others question the placement of the -1 in the exponential.
  • One participant points out that the original post does not constitute a proper equation since it lacks an equals sign.
  • There is a suggestion that the notation may have been derived from a book, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the Planck distribution.
  • Participants note that the additional brackets in the notation may imply it is part of a larger equation.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in viewing mathematical symbols on their device, indicating a technical issue unrelated to the mathematical content.
  • Another participant mentions that the original poster, Mechatron, has been banned from the forum, which may affect the discussion's context.

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There is no clear consensus on the correct form of the equation, as participants express differing views on the notation and its implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the proper representation of the Planck distribution.

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Participants highlight ambiguities in the notation and the potential for misinterpretation, but do not resolve these issues. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and assumptions about the mathematical expressions involved.

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Is this equation equal to:

(e^(hf/kT)) - 1

or

e^( (hf/kT) - 1 )

http://s29.postimg.org/le6iqy3rb/exp.png
 
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The former.
 
Mechatron said:
Is this equation equal to:

(e^(hf/kT)) - 1

or

e^( (hf/kT) - 1 )

http://s29.postimg.org/le6iqy3rb/exp.png
First off, what you wrote is NOT an equation. An equation always has an = symbol in it.

The image in the link is [exp(hf/kT) - 1].

What you have written is ambiguous, as what you probably meant is this:
$$e^{\frac{hf}{kT} - 1}$$

What you actually wrote, though, is this:
$$e^{\frac{hf}{k}T - 1}$$

The brackets - [] - around the entire expression are unnecessary.
 
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Mark44 said:
First off, what you wrote is NOT an equation. An equation always has an = symbol in it.

The image in the link is [exp(hf/kT) - 1].

What you have written is ambiguous, as what you probably meant is this:
$$e^{\frac{hf}{kT} - 1}$$

What you actually wrote, though, is this:
$$e^{\frac{hf}{k}T - 1}$$

The brackets - [] - around the entire expression are unnecessary.
Why did you put the -1 in the exponential? The parenthesis limit the argument of exp to hf/kT.

My guess is that Mechatron did not write that himself, but saw it in a book. It's most probably related to the Planck distribution (blackbody radiation). As economicsnerd said, the correct reading is
$$
e^{\beta h f} - 1 \mbox{ where } \beta = \frac{1}{kT}
$$
The additional bracket [] might be there because it is part of a greater equation.
 
Im sorry to be off topic but I'm using a i device and i can't see (what i think to be) mathematical symbols that are in this thread... They appear as dollar signs and other randoms, i was wondering if maybe I'm short of additional download or setting adjustments. All help is highly appreciated
 
DrClaude said:
Why did you put the -1 in the exponential? The parenthesis limit the argument of exp to hf/kT.
The posted image, which doesn't have the -1 term, doesn't match the expressions in the first post. In the first post Mechatron asks about these expressions:
(e^(hf/kT)) - 1

and

e^( (hf/kT) - 1 )

In any case, this is moot, as Mechatron has been banned from PF.

DrClaude said:
My guess is that Mechatron did not write that himself, but saw it in a book. It's most probably related to the Planck distribution (blackbody radiation). As economicsnerd said, the correct reading is
$$
e^{\beta h f} - 1 \mbox{ where } \beta = \frac{1}{kT}
$$
The additional bracket [] might be there because it is part of a greater equation.
 

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