Which has higher polarity, sec-butyl chloride or tert-butyl chloride?

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The discussion centers on the polarity of sec-butyl chloride compared to tert-butyl chloride, exploring the factors that influence polarity, such as electron withdrawing effects and charge separation. Participants examine the implications of molecular structure on polarity, referencing permittivity values and the inductive effects of different alkyl groups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that sec-butyl chloride has higher polarity due to its secondary carbon structure.
  • Another participant agrees, stating that greater s character correlates with higher polarity.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that determining polarity is complex and suggests that tert-butyl chloride may have higher polarity due to its ability to donate electrons, potentially leading to greater charge separation.
  • Permittivity values are provided, showing that sec-butyl chloride has a permittivity of 8.564 and tert-butyl chloride has a permittivity of 9.663, which some participants interpret as indicative of polarity.
  • One participant highlights the inductive effects of the methyl groups in tert-butyl chloride as a factor that could influence its polarity compared to sec-butyl chloride.
  • Another participant questions what parameter is used to measure polarity, indicating a need for clarification on the measurement methods.
  • There is mention of charge separation and dipole moments, suggesting that these factors complicate the determination of polarity between the two compounds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on which compound has higher polarity, with some leaning towards sec-butyl chloride and others suggesting tert-butyl chloride may be more polar. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference permittivity values and the inductive effects of different alkyl groups, but there is no consensus on the definitive measurement of polarity or the factors that most significantly influence it.

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Homework Statement


I just need to know which of the two, sec-butyl chloride or tert-butyl chloride, has the higher polarity.

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I know that better electron withdrawing groups have higher polarity.


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I am learning towards sec-butyl having a higher polarity due to since it is a secondary carbon, but I would like a confirmation on whether my answer is correct or not. Thanks.
 
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Yes. That would be true. The greater the s character, the higher the polarity.
 
Without measuring this it is difficult to say. Polarity is also a function of charge separation. T-butyl is a better electron donor than sec-butyl. This could result in a higher negative charge on the chlorine and a higher positive charge on the teritiary carbon of the t-butyl group. This charge separation could cause the t-butylchloride to be of higher polarity.

The permittivity for sec-butyl chloride is 8.564 and that of t-butyl chloride (2-chloro-2-methylpropane) is 9.663. (CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, 84th ed., Chap. 6, p 161.) That of 1-chlorobutane is 7.276. It seems to follow the carbocation-stabilizing ability of the carbon attached to the chlorine. The permittivity for 1-chloro-2-methylpropane, another form of butane that has a primary chloro group, is 7.027. This is somewhat lower than 1-chlorobutane (7.276) which indicates that the permitivitty is not solely determined by the nature (primary, secondary, tertiary...) of the chlorine substitution.
 
Great, thank you for confirming my answer!
 
Confirming your answer?
 
Confirming the answer I suspected in the original post. I was leaning towards sec-butyl, and you guys agreed.
 
What parameter do you think is used to measure polarity?
 
FlipStyle1308 said:
Confirming the answer I suspected in the original post. I was leaning towards sec-butyl, and you guys agreed.
On the contrary, c-tree has shown that tert-butyl chloride has a greater polarity. The inductive effect of 3 independent methyl groups is greater than that of 1 methyl and 1 ethyl group. The inductive effect from an n-carbon alkyl group does not increase as rapidly as n. But, as mentioned above, there are also effective separations to keep in mind, which makes the determination more complex. I'm guessing it's the smaller charge separation that gives 1-chloro-2-methylpropane a smaller dipole moment than 1-chlorobutane.
 
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