Which is Greater for Large n: f(n) = 2^{2^{2^n}} or g(n) = 100^{100^n}?

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The discussion revolves around comparing the growth rates of two functions, f(n) = 2^{2^{2^n}} and g(n) = 100^{100^n}, as n approaches large values. Participants are exploring methods to determine which function grows larger without directly substituting values for n.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss taking logarithms of both functions to analyze their growth rates. There are attempts to express the logarithmic forms and considerations about the implications of these transformations. Questions arise about how to conclude the comparison and whether digit counting could provide insight.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights about the logarithmic transformations and their implications. Some suggest that the exponential nature of the terms indicates that one function will grow significantly larger than the other, while others seek clarification on how to formalize their findings.

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Participants express uncertainty about the best methods to demonstrate their reasoning, and there is a mention of using l'Hôpital's theorem as a potential approach, although it is not deemed necessary by all. The exploration of counting digits is also noted as a possible method to compare the functions.

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which is greater as n gets large, [itex]f(n) = 2^{2^{2^n}}[/itex] or [itex]g(n) = 100^{100^n}[/itex]

instinctively I'd go with f(n) but I have no idea of actually showing that f(n) would indeed get larger, obviously sticking in values of n doesn't particularly work. A method I was thinking was to show many digits would f(n) be when n=100, and same with g(n), I attempted this but to no avail,

any hints would be appreciated

thanks.
 
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converting1 said:
which is greater as n gets large, [itex]f(n) = 2^{2^{2^n}}[/itex] or [itex]g(n) = 100^{100^n}[/itex]

instinctively I'd go with f(n) but I have no idea of actually showing that f(n) would indeed get larger, obviously sticking in values of n doesn't particularly work. A method I was thinking was to show many digits would f(n) be when n=100, and same with g(n), I attempted this but to no avail,

any hints would be appreciated

thanks.

Take the log of both functions. What do you think now? If you're not sure take the log again.
 
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Dick said:
Take the log of both functions. What do you think now? If you're not sure take the log again.

[tex]ln(2^{2^{2^n}}) = 2^{2^n}ln(2)[/tex]
[tex]ln(2^{2^n}ln(2)) = ln(2^{2^n}) + ln(ln(2)) = 2^nln(2) + ln(ln(2))[/tex]

[tex]ln(100^{100^n}) = 100^nln100[/tex]
[tex]ln(100^nln(100)) = ln(100^n) + ln(ln(100)) = nln(100) + ln(ln(100))[/tex]

from this I'm sure that 2^n will indeed grow much larger as it's an exponential however I don't particularly know how to conclude.

Also, is there anyway I can do it by looking at the digits?
 
converting1 said:
[tex]ln(2^{2^{2^n}}) = 2^{2^n}ln(2)[/tex]
[tex]ln(2^{2^n}ln(2)) = ln(2^{2^n}) + ln(ln(2)) = 2^nln(2) + ln(ln(2))[/tex]

[tex]ln(100^{100^n}) = 100^nln100[/tex]
[tex]ln(100^nln(100)) = ln(100^n) + ln(ln(100)) = nln(100) + ln(ln(100))[/tex]

from this I'm sure that 2^n will indeed grow much larger as it's an exponential however I don't particularly know how to conclude.

Also, is there anyway I can do it by looking at the digits?

Sure. Now it's pretty obvious 2^n will be much larger than n for n large. If you want to be formal about it you could use l'Hopital's theorem on the ratio of the ln(ln)'s. But I don't think you have to. And this is really the same as counting digits. To find the number of digits you would look at log base 10 of each expression. When you take the second log you are basically looking at the log of the number of digits.
 
Dick said:
Sure. Now it's pretty obvious 2^n will be much larger than n for n large. If you want to be formal about it you could use l'Hopital's theorem on the ratio of the ln(ln)'s. But I don't think you have to. And this is really the same as counting digits. To find the number of digits you would look at log base 10 of each expression. When you take the second log you are basically looking at the log of the number of digits.

Thanks for your help
 

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