Which of these logarithms has the biggest value?

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The discussion revolves around determining which logarithm among several options has the largest value without using a calculator. Participants suggest utilizing logarithmic identities and properties to analyze the ratios of logarithms. A key insight is the function f(x) = log_x(x+1), which can be shown to be decreasing, indicating that as x increases, the logarithm value decreases. This approach provides a method to compare the logarithms without direct calculation. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding logarithmic behavior to solve the problem effectively.
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Which one is the biggest?
a. ##\log_{2015}2016##
b. ##\log_{2016}2017##
c. ##\log_{2017}2018##
d. ##\log_{2018}2019##
e. ##\log_{2019}2020##
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Is there any way to answer the question without just calculating it using calculator, maybe manipulating the number using logarithm properties?

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Can you see which one must be largest? You could prove it use log identities.
 
PeroK said:
Can you see which one must be largest? You could prove it use log identities.
I can't, without using calculator

##\log_{2015}2016=\frac{\log 2016}{\log 2015}##

##\log_{2016}2017=\frac{\log 2017}{\log 2016}##

##\log_{2017}2018=\frac{\log 2018}{\log 2017}##

##\log_{2018}2019=\frac{\log 2019}{\log 2018}##

##\log_{2019}2020=\frac{\log 2020}{\log 2019}##

From option (a) to (e), both numerator and numerators become larger so I don't know about their ratio.Trying to change it into index form:
##\log_{2015}2016=a \rightarrow 2016 = 2015^{a}##

##\log_{2016}2017=b \rightarrow 2017 = 2016^{b}##

##\log_{2017}2018=c \rightarrow 2018 = 2017^{c}##

##\log_{2018}2019=d \rightarrow 2019 = 2018^{d}##

##\log_{2019}2020=e \rightarrow 2020 = 2019^{e}##

What logarithm properties do I need to use to find the order of the number?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
I can't, without using calculator

##\log_{2015}2016=\frac{\log 2016}{\log 2015}##

##\log_{2016}2017=\frac{\log 2017}{\log 2016}##

##\log_{2017}2018=\frac{\log 2018}{\log 2017}##

##\log_{2018}2019=\frac{\log 2019}{\log 2018}##

##\log_{2019}2020=\frac{\log 2020}{\log 2019}##

From option (a) to (e), both numerator and numerators become larger so I don't know about their ratio.
What about letting ##f(x) = \log_{x}(x+1) = \frac{\log (x+1)}{\log x}## and showing that ##f(x)## is a decreasing function?
 
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PeroK said:
What about letting ##f(x) = \log_{x}(x+1) = \frac{\log (x+1)}{\log x}## and showing that ##f(x) is a decreasing function?
This is brilliant (I will never be able to think towards this direction).

Thank you very much PeroK
 
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