Which Word Appears in the Mirror?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the placement of letters in relation to a baseline and how certain letters appear in a mirror. Participants explore the categorization of letters based on their shapes and how they reflect visually, including a specific anecdote related to the word "CHOICE" as seen in a mirror.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the letter R goes above or below a baseline, with one suggesting it goes above unless using a stencil font.
  • There is a proposal to categorize letters into specific lists based on their shapes, with some participants agreeing on the placement of certain letters like Y, while disagreeing on Z.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about seeing the word "CHOICE" in a mirror, leading to a discussion about how the letters would appear when reversed.
  • One participant proposes a variation of the letter categorization, adding new letters to the lists and suggesting different groupings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the categorization of letters and their placement in relation to a baseline. There is no consensus on the correct grouping of letters X, Y, and Z, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the mirror image of the word "CHOICE."

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about letter shapes and their visual representation may not be universally accepted. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of how letters are categorized based on their appearance.

K Sengupta
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Does the letter R go above or below the line?

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K Sengupta said:
Does the letter R go above or below the line?

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Above-- unless you're using a stencil font. In the same vein, which lists do X, Y and Z go into?

1) AMTUVW
2) HIO
3) BCDEK
4) FGJLNPQRS

DaveE
 
I'm going to guess

Y in 1
Z in 2
X in 1, 2, and 3

and possibly Y in 2 also
 
Soca fo so said:
I'm going to guess

Y in 1
Z in 2
X in 1, 2, and 3

and possibly Y in 2 also

Your placement of Y is correct, but Z isn't where I was going with it-- and by my reasoning, X and Y only belong in one of the 4 lists.

DaveE
 
I was looking at the symmetry of the letters with my answer, but would I be right in saying the answer has to do with topology/graph theory?
 
X in 3, Y in 1, Z in 4?
 
davee123 said:
1) AMTUVW
2) HIO
3) BCDEK
4) FGJLNPQRS

DaveE
This is nice, I had never seen it before. I propose the following variation:
1)AMTUVWY
2)HI
3)BCDEK
4)FGJLPQR
5)NSZ
6)X
7)O
1) Vertical axis
2) Vertical and horizontal axes and 180 degrees rotation
3) Horizontal axis
4) None
5) 180 degrees rotation
6) Vertical, horizontal, and both diagonal axes, 90 degrees rotation
7) All axes, all degrees rotation
 
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But doesn't 2 have 180 degrees rotation too?

Back to the original is the answer X in 2, Y in 1, Z in 4 then?

With the common mirror flip symmetries:

1)Vertical axis
2)Vertical and horizontal axes
3)Horizontal axis
4)None

(didn't originally see some letters in 4 had the 180 degree rotational symmetry)
 
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Thank you, Soca fo so. I have edited my post.
 
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Soca fo so said:
Back to the original is the answer X in 2, Y in 1, Z in 4 then?

Yep! That's what I was going for.

I thought about adding the separate category for rotational symmetry, but it created some ambiguity for O, and seemed to make the problem either too complex or a dead giveaway, so I figured I'd just go with the straight 90 degree axes of symmetry.

DaveE
 
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A long while ago someone showed me a package of Camel's cigarettes, not directly, but in a mirror. There in the mirror plainly showed the word CHOICE and I was set to wondering what word was printed on the pack that showed thus in the mirror. Of course, the word CHOICE itself would show up as ECIOHC wouldn't it?
 

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