Whiteboard Compromise: Long-Lasting Markers for Grad Students

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and preferences of using whiteboards versus chalkboards for graduate students, particularly in mathematics. Participants explore the longevity of writing instruments, the practicality of each medium, and personal experiences with both options.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for chalk due to its longevity and fun factor but is concerned about the dust affecting their laptop and the noise associated with chalkboards.
  • Another participant prefers whiteboards and suggests keeping marker caps on immediately after use to prolong marker life, noting that some markers are refillable, such as the Pilot "Begreen VBoard Master."
  • Some participants highlight that whiteboard markers produce brighter colors than chalk, which can enhance visibility and emphasis during writing.
  • Concerns are raised about the dust from chalk damaging computers, although it is suggested that it may not directly affect hard drives.
  • One participant mentions that while they enjoy the aesthetics of chalkboards, the performance can be inferior if the board is not of high quality, particularly with chalkboard paint.
  • Another participant agrees with the need for quick capping of markers and suggests having multiple markers to mitigate the issue of any single marker running out of ink.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing preferences for chalk versus whiteboards, with no consensus on which medium is superior. Various strategies for managing the use of markers and chalk are discussed, but opinions on their effectiveness and practicality vary.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations with chalkboard paint and its performance compared to traditional chalkboards, as well as the varying quality of markers and their refill options.

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Hello, I am soon to be a graduate student in mathematics. I currently have a chalkboard (well, a whiteboard covered with chalkboard paint) and I very much like it. I think chalk is fun, and I am particularly fond of how long chalk will last. The problem is that I have a laptop, on which I have all of my textbooks. I just also use my computer a lot writing on the board, and I have noticed that I always end up with some residue on the keyboard, even though I feel that I am being cautious. A chalkboard is also more noisy. I was thinking about getting another whiteboard, as I would probably have access to classroom chalkboards in the near future, but I am still put off by how quickly markers die. Is there any reasonable compromise? Are there any super long lasting whiteboard markers anyone can recommend?
 
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SrVishi said:
Hello, I am soon to be a graduate student in mathematics. I currently have a chalkboard (well, a whiteboard covered with chalkboard paint) and I very much like it. I think chalk is fun, and I am particularly fond of how long chalk will last. The problem is that I have a laptop, on which I have all of my textbooks. I just also use my computer a lot writing on the board, and I have noticed that I always end up with some residue on the keyboard, even though I feel that I am being cautious. A chalkboard is also more noisy. I was thinking about getting another whiteboard, as I would probably have access to classroom chalkboards in the near future, but I am still put off by how quickly markers die. Is there any reasonable compromise? Are there any super long lasting whiteboard markers anyone can recommend?
Personally I like whiteboards and markers more, even though the markers run out of ink in a relatively short time. One thing I do is to always keep the marker cap in one hand, and immediately put it back on the pen when I'm finished writing, even if I'm only pausing for a minute or two. As soon as I stop writing, I put the cap back on. I've seen so many people who wave the marker pens around, leave them with the caps off, and otherwise don't take good care of them, that I always carry about 20 of my own.

Another thing is that some markers are refillable so you don't have to just throw away the marker when the ink is used up. Pilot makes a brand called "Begreen VBoard Master" markers that are refillable four times. When a marker starts to get faint, just unscrew the endcap, put in a refill, and screw in the endcap.

Another strong point for the marker pens is that the colors are much brighter than chalk colors, so it's easier to emphasize certain points than you can do with chalk.

Aside from being noisier, the dust produced by chalk is very hard on computers, so it's not a good idea to be using a laptop in close proximity to a chalkboard. I don't think the dust can get into the hard drives, but it can eventually coat everything else inside the computer, and that can't be good for the longevity of the device.
 
Mark44 said:
One thing I do is to always keep the marker cap in one hand, and immediately put it back on the pen when I'm finished writing, even if I'm only pausing for a minute or two. As soon as I stop writing, I put the cap back on.
I do this too. I use a small whiteboard for writing math when I don't want to chew up a lot of notebook pages using pencil & paper. Aside from quick capping, I find having a bunch of markers takes away the problem of any single marker dying. Markers aren't like chalk which lasts down to the last crumb, but so it goes.

I too prefer the aesthetics of a good chalkboard - however the dust is considerable; also, anything but a really high quality actual chalkboard w/ a smooth surface results in bumpy, inferior performance that takes the fun away; and chalkboard paint in particular has not worked well for me for that reason. And finally, an advantage of whiteboards for personal use is that a fine-point marker allows smaller handwriting than chalk.
 

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