News Who are the major beneficiaries of the Iraq struggle

[Skyhunter]

Like I said, there's a huge difference between a contract and a subsidy. I honestly don't care that Halliburton is making a profit. Someone HAD to make a profit. Someone had to do the job.

Why do they have to make a profit?

Why don't they sacrifice their profit for the greater good in support of the war?

Our soldiers are sacrificing their lives.

Couldn't Halliburton sacrifice their profit?

 

[Skyhunter]

The oppressed people of Iraq.

What was all this talk about facts.

 

[Skyhunter]

And oddly enough... when Clinton did the exact same thing in the Balkins... no one said a word. Hmm... interesting...

You're kidding right?

 

[Skyhunter]

Hmm, a mad man running a dictatorship bent on regional domination while surpressing all political dissent in his country... sounds like something we might have said (or the Democrats might have said... but back when Clinton was around that is). It was surely the intent simply because they said it was the intent. You are not a mind reader, you cannot say what is going through the mind of US officials. Your claim is as baseless as mine except that my basis has an ounce of authority and proof to it while yours is simple opinion.

And maybe if you stopped reading the NY and LA times and started reading about what people who actually are in the country are saying, maybe (doubt it) would have a different opinion. It has already been proven that the country of Iraq is doing far better then it was under Saddam's regime. There are also no more innocent women and children being dragged out of their houses and raped and murdered by governemtn officials (although I'm sure you've never heard of such things!). But then again, I suppose as long as you have no idea what Iraq was like before the war and think that "good" is defined as the quality of government and life of a major western nations that have been under democracies for many centuries, it doesn't seem very good at all!

Where is your ounce of proof and authority?

If they are so much better off now, why has the death rate in Iraq increased by 100,000 a year?

 

[Skyhunter]

Iran seems to be happy with the way the Iraq "struggle" is going.

August 30, 2005

THE MOST telling reaction to the draft Iraqi constitution has come not from Crawford, Texas, but from Tehran. There, the head of Iran's Guardian Council hailed the document. ''After years of struggle," Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati said, ''an Islamic state has come to power." That is a more accurate description of the potential of the document than President Bush provided Sunday in praising its ''far-reaching protections for human freedoms." As much as the Bush administration wants the Iraqi people to adopt a constitution and take over the fight against the insurgents, US officials must have misgivings about a document that Iran welcomes.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2005/08/30/unsettled_in_iraq/

 

[2CentsWorth]

...I can personally only think of the airline industries because they are just naturally an unprofitable enterprise.

It is obvious you are not majoring in economics.

Well now your tredding on un-proven conspiracy theories. Halliburton has done many major contracts for the US government before and other companies received larger contracts in Iraq. This conspiracy theory has been thoroughly de-bunked. Searched the forums, I am way too pissed right now to start this crap up again (My car's starter just failed I think).

Oh ye with short memory, this was discussed and evidence was provided that showed Halliburton to be unethical, if by no other fact than the fines they've had to pay. Debunked conspiracy my arse (the failed starter was a message from God).

Hmm, a mad man running a dictatorship bent on regional domination while surpressing all political dissent in his country... sounds like!

Bush?

Your claim is as baseless as mine except that my basis has an ounce of authority and proof to it while yours is simple opinion.

And maybe if you stopped reading the NY and LA times and started reading about what people who actually are in the country are saying, maybe (doubt it) would have a different opinion. It has already been proven that the country of Iraq is doing far better then it was under Saddam's regime. There are also no more innocent women and children being dragged out of their houses and raped and murdered by governemtn officials (although I'm sure you've never heard of such things!). But then again, I suppose as long as you have no idea what Iraq was like before the war and think that "good" is defined as the quality of government and life of a major western nations that have been under democracies for many centuries, it doesn't seem very good at all!

Your claims have authority and proof? It would be nice to see you read at all, and quit regurgitating what people "in the country are saying," because their opinions are just as uninformed.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

Hmm, a mad man running a dictatorship bent on regional domination while surpressing all political dissent in his country... sounds like!

Bush?

Sorry but I don't see Sheehan and the like rotting in concentartion camps waiting to be executed.

 

[Skyhunter]

Sorry but I don't see Sheehan and the like rotting in concentartion camps waiting to be executed.

No, just thrown out of tax payer financed town hall meetings for having the wrong bumper sticker.

Having to sign an oath of loyalty in order to join in a discussion about your social security.

No concentration camps yet, but hell he just got started, at least give him enough time to declare marshall law first.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

No, just thrown out of tax payer financed town hall meetings for having the wrong bumper sticker.

Yeah I suppose the fed must have passed around a memo to town halls saying they shouldn't let Sheehan in.

 

[Skyhunter]

Yeah I suppose the fed must have passed around a memo to town halls saying they shouldn't let Sheehan in.

I wasn't talking about Cindy but I understand your confusion.

DENVER (AP) - The Secret Service says it is investigating the claims of three people who claim they were removed from President Bush's town hall meeting on Social Security last week after being singled out because of a bumper sticker on their car.

The three said they had obtained tickets through the office of Rep. Bob Beauprez, R-Colo., had passed through security and were preparing to take their seats when they were approached by what they thought was a Secret Service agent who asked them to leave.

One woman, Karen Bauer, 38, a marketing coordinator from Denver, said Monday the agent put his hand on her elbow and steered her away from her seat and toward an exit.

"The Secret Service had nothing to do with that," said Lon Garner, special agent in charge of the Secret Service office in Denver. "We are very sensitive to the First Amendment and general assembly rights as protected by the Constitution."

The three who were removed, along with their attorney, Dan Recht, met with Garner on Monday. Recht said he may file a lawsuit based on the group's alleged violation of their First Amendment rights.

Garner said the group appeared confused as to who asked them to leave and declined to release further details, citing an ongoing investigation

It wasn't the SS, but it is illegal to impersonate a SS agent, however no charges were filed. I think there is a civil case right now.

 

[Skyhunter]

Here are some others who have little to complain about with the war.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/30/business/pay.php