Why are the Constants e and pi Linked in the Equation e^(i*pi)+1=0?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the mathematical constants e and π as expressed in the equation e^(iπ) + 1 = 0. Participants explore the reasons behind this connection, considering its implications in various mathematical contexts, including geometry and calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about why e and π are linked, noting their origins in different mathematical domains—geometry for π and calculus for e.
  • One participant explains that e^(ix) can be represented as cos(x) + i*sin(x), highlighting the similarity between the Taylor series of exponential and trigonometric functions.
  • Another participant describes how e^(iπ) corresponds to a point on the unit circle in the complex plane, specifically at -1 when x = π.
  • A participant suggests that the connection between e and π exemplifies a deeper unity in mathematics, likening it to the fable of the blind men and the elephant.
  • One contribution presents a geometric interpretation of the identity, discussing how magnitudes multiply and arguments add in complex multiplication.
  • Another participant reflects on the nature of e as the base of natural logarithms and its relationship to differentiation, pondering if this connects e with trigonometric functions.
  • A later reply discusses the concept of multiplying by i as a rotation in the complex plane, suggesting that exponentiation with real multiples of i creates a spiral movement around the unit circle.

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Participants generally agree on the significance of the relationship between e and π but express differing views on the reasons behind this connection. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the challenge of understanding the link between a geometric concept (π) and an analytical constant (e), indicating that the discussion is influenced by the different contexts in which these constants arise.

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I will first say that I fully understand how to prove this equation from the use of power series, what I am interested in though is why e and pi should be linked like they are. As far as I know pi comes from geometry (although it does have an equivalent analytical definition), and e comes from calculus. I cannot see any reason why they should be linked and the proof doesn't really give any insights as to why the equation works. Is there some nice way of explaining this?
 
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It's just a special case of ##\exp(ix) = \cos x + i\sin x## at x=pi.

The Taylor expansions of the exponential function and the trigonometric functions are very similar. The Taylor series of sin(x) is very similar to odd terms of the Taylor series of exp(x). The only difference is that the sine series alternates in sign. The same is true for the Taylor series of cos(x) and the even terms of the Taylor series of exp(x). There's obviously a connection between the exponential function and those trigonometric functions.

Those sign alternations vanish when one looks at exp(ix) as opposed to exp(x). The real and imaginary parts of exp(ix) are the trigonometric functions.
 
If you look at the complex plane, then exp(ix) represents points on the unit circle. When x = π, the point on the circle is -1.
 
jsmith said:
I will first say that I fully understand how to prove this equation from the use of power series, what I am interested in though is why e and pi should be linked like they are. As far as I know pi comes from geometry (although it does have an equivalent analytical definition), and e comes from calculus. I cannot see any reason why they should be linked and the proof doesn't really give any insights as to why the equation works. Is there some nice way of explaining this?

It's astonishing, isn't it? This is one of many examples of the deep underlying unity of mathematics. As you continue to study mathematics, you will find other examples of seemingly unrelated things which turn out to have an underlying connection. It always reminds me of the fable of the blind men and the elephant. Each branch of mathematics that we study is just a piece of a unified whole.
 
A geometric way to think of the identity e^{i\pi}=-1 is that magnitudes multiply and arguments add when multiplying complex numbers.

e^{i\pi}= \lim_{n \to \infty} (1+\frac{i\pi}{n})^n= \lim_{n \to \infty} (\sqrt{1+(\frac{\pi^2}{n^2})}z)^n

where z is a complex number with unit magnitude and argument \frac{\pi}{n} (equal to (cos\frac{\pi}{n})+isin(\frac{\pi}{n})).

So, \lim_{n \to \infty} (\sqrt{1+\frac{\pi^2}{n^2}}z)^n= \lim_{n \to \infty} (1+(\frac{\pi^2}{n^2}))^\frac{n}{2}z^n=\lim_{n \to \infty} z^n. Since z has magnitude 1 and argument \frac{\pi}{n}, the limit has magnitude 1 and argument \pi.

Therefore e^{i\pi}=-1.

Note: I adapted this argument from The Princeton Companion to Mathematics. I thought it was neat and that I should share it. Choosing a general angle instead of \pi gives the more general formula e^{i\theta}=cos\theta + isin\theta.
 
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The fact that we don't see any reason why the two (or three!) concepts should be linked is what makes the equality so famous.

There is a deep, underlying unity in a lot of math, that may be hard to see as long as we look at these things from a viewpoint of what problems they were invented to solve.
 
Thanks for the replies. I do understand fully why this identity holds. I guess my question is why should a completely geometric concept (pi) be linked so nicely with a completely analytical constant (e). Thinking about it I am wondering if this is anything to do with the fact that e is defined by e^x is its own derivative, and using the geometric interpretation of differentiation? Does this somehow give a link between e^x and the trig functions?
 
I thought about this a lot too once, though the best I could come up with is like this. Multiplying by i turns a number 90 degrees around the complex plane. Exponentiation with real multiples of i is essentially continuous multiplication such that you are "smoothly" turning around the complex plane in a spiral shape. As mathman said:

mathman said:
If you look at the complex plane, then exp(ix) represents points on the unit circle. When x = π, the point on the circle is -1.

So e^ix is a spiral that turns around the unit circle at a "natural" rate of e (whatever that means :P). And turning at this "natural" rate is complemented by pi which is half the circumference of the unit circle. Just my two cents.
 
phyzguy said:
It's astonishing, isn't it? This is one of many examples of the deep underlying unity of mathematics. As you continue to study mathematics, you will find other examples of seemingly unrelated things which turn out to have an underlying connection. It always reminds me of the fable of the blind men and the elephant. Each branch of mathematics that we study is just a piece of a unified whole.

Considering math is one giant tautology, why do you find its underlying unity surprising?
 

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