Why Brazil Lost: Zidane's Freekick vs Henry

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the analysis of a specific moment during the quarter-final match between Brazil and France in the 1998 World Cup, particularly focusing on Zidane's free kick and Henry's positioning. Participants explore defensive strategies, player behavior, and the overall performance of the teams during the match.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a Brazilian defender, possibly Roberto Carlos, appeared to be distracted or unprepared during the free kick, which may have affected the outcome.
  • Another participant suggests that the defender's actions were typical of a player who has been beaten, indicating a lack of responsibility for the situation.
  • There is speculation about the defender's focus on a French player outside the penalty area, implying a potential misjudgment in defensive positioning.
  • A participant expresses certainty about Roberto Carlos's actions during the match, recalling past instances where his defensive skills were questionable, suggesting that his presence may not have changed the outcome.
  • One participant argues that France outplayed Brazil overall, suggesting that focusing on a single moment may overlook broader team dynamics and performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of the Brazilian defense, particularly regarding Roberto Carlos. While some focus on specific actions during the free kick, others argue that the overall performance of the teams is more significant. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific moments and actions without providing video evidence for all claims, leading to potential gaps in verification. The discussion relies on personal observations and interpretations of the match events.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of football analysis, particularly those interested in defensive strategies and match breakdowns, may find this discussion relevant.

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I may not be as observant as other football-crazy people out there, but I received a forwarded mail showing stills of Zidane's free kick from the quarter final match. Henry was free to do almost anything in the space he had, but if you notice closely, one of the Brazilians (supposedly Roberto Carlos) was bending down holding his knees, and just started to "wake up" when Henry put the ball in.

Posting all those stills here will take a long time, so check out this video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EM737ikdmjo&search=henry brazil france

(Notice the last Brazilian at the right).
 
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Like a true defender, once beaten, he makes sure he's nowhere near the scene of the crime, leaving his poor goalkeeper holding the bag.
 
I think that this defender had his eye on the French guy outside the middle of the penalty area.
 
From replays on tv I'm fairly certain it was Roberto Carlos and I'm fairly certain he was either tying his shoes or adjusting his socks.

I'm also fairly certain Roberto Carlos had the ball go between his legs while standing on the line during the '98 final, but can't seem to track down a video.

In an earlier match in '98 World Cup I'm also fairly certain Robert Carlos attempted clearance from the back with a bicycle kick that ended up conceeding a goal.

I'm fairly certain Roberto Carlos has the worst defensive abilities I've seen in a supposed world class defender, so I'm not sure him following Henry would have helped.
 
France outplayed Brazil in general during the game. It's easy to pick at a particular spot in the game and start making representations.

Notably, neither Zidane nor Thierry is not responsible for making sure that the Brazilians have time to adjust their shoes or whatever.
 

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