Why can we believe the value of field is fluctuated?

In summary, the conversation discusses the fluctuation of the value of a field at the micro-level and the need for expressing the field in terms of operators to determine its fluctuations. It also touches on the quantization of the statistic electric fields and the concept of unpolarized light. There is also a discussion about the relationship between particles and fields and the concept of probability for photons. Finally, it is mentioned that quantum mechanics for zero mass particles does not have a position representation.
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What is the basis for the believe that the value of field is fluctuated at micro-level?Does the existence of photons demontrate the need of express field in form of operators then deducing the fluctuation of quantum field through Heizenberg commutators?
 
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Does we not need or we can not quantize the statistic electric fields?
 
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Well, for any measurable quantity [itex]A[/itex], we can get an estimate of how much it varies by computing the variance: [itex]var(A) = \langle A^2 \rangle - \langle A \rangle^2[/itex], where [itex]\langle \rangle[/itex] means taking the expected, or average, value. In vacuum, in the absence of any charges, we can compute [itex]\langle \vec{E}\rangle[/itex], the expected value of the electric field, and we find it's zero. But the computation for [itex]\langle E^2 \rangle[/itex] is not zero, or at least, is not obviously zero. (I believe the naive way of computing it results in an infinite value, which of course, makes no sense. I'm not sure what a more careful analysis yields.)
 
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In the present of charges,existing the longitudinal electric field(statistic field).Why we do not consider the quantization of the fields?Classically the field is Coulomb field,but how is it if we consider ''the corresponding quantum fields''?
 
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fxdung said:
What is the basis for the believe that the value of field is fluctuated at micro-level?
The notion of unpolarized light cannot even be expressed in terms of non-fluctuating fields.
 
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fxdung said:
In the present of charges,existing the longitudinal electric field(statistic field).Why we do not consider the quantization of the fields?
In QED, the whole electromagnetic field is quantized. But what one sees when starting from the Fock space is only the noninteracting (asymptotic) piece, where the longitudinal part of the field vanishes. The remaining part is created by the interaction, which modifies all field operators.
 
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I am confused between three following ideas:
-Particles is product of exciting state of field.But what is the exciting states?
-Field is a huge cluster of many particles between them have exchange interaction and that the number of particles can be fluctuated.Electromagnetic field is a ''set''of photons.
-Particle is a packet of field.But why the particle is a point particle?
Which idea is correct or the all are correct?
 
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I have heard that there is not concept about probability of photon at a position.So photon concept has global character.Then I think that the packet of field of a quantum field(photon) carries the point particle(or point photon) and then having not the Heizenberg relation between position and momentum when the mass of particle is zero.
Quantum mechanics for zero mass particle has not position representaion.It is the answer for my question above.Is it correct?
 
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fxdung said:
Quantum mechanics for zero mass particle has no position representation. It is the answer for my question above. Is it correct?
Yes.
 

1. Why does the value of field fluctuate?

The value of field fluctuates due to various factors such as changes in supply and demand, economic conditions, and market trends. These factors can cause shifts in the perceived value of a field, leading to fluctuations in its market price.

2. How do scientists determine the value of a field?

Scientists use a variety of methods to determine the value of a field, including conducting research, analyzing data, and applying mathematical models. They also consider the impact of external factors, such as government policies and technological advancements, on the value of a field.

3. Can we trust the value of a field to remain stable?

The value of a field is subject to change, but it is often influenced by long-term trends rather than short-term fluctuations. Scientists use historical data and predictive models to forecast the potential changes in the value of a field, but it is not guaranteed to remain stable.

4. What role do human perceptions play in the value of a field?

Human perceptions can heavily influence the value of a field. For example, a field may be considered valuable if it is in high demand or has a strong reputation, even if its inherent worth may be the same as a less popular field. Additionally, personal biases and emotions can also impact the perceived value of a field.

5. How does uncertainty affect the value of a field?

Uncertainty can have a significant impact on the value of a field. When there is a lack of information or conflicting data about a field, it can lead to fluctuations in its perceived value. This is why scientists often conduct thorough research and analysis to reduce uncertainties and provide more accurate value estimates for a field.

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