Why can we rewrite the wave function like so:

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the representation of the wave function in quantum mechanics, specifically in terms of momentum eigenfunctions. The original poster is exploring the transition from a summation over discrete states to an integral over continuous states, as outlined in Griffiths' textbook on quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster seeks to understand the justification for rewriting the wave function as an integral involving momentum eigenfunctions, questioning the proof of this transition from a sum to an integral.
  • Some participants clarify that the completeness of the basis functions allows for this transition, noting the distinction between discrete and continuous indices.
  • There is a recognition of the relationship to Fourier analysis and the implications of continuous variables in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing insights into the nature of the basis functions and the mathematical framework involved. The original poster has acknowledged a clearer understanding of the transition from summation to integration, indicating a productive exchange of ideas. Further clarification on related transformations, such as the Fourier transform, has also been noted.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the concepts of completeness in quantum mechanics and the implications of continuous versus discrete variables in wave function representation. There is an underlying assumption that the wave functions discussed are square-integrable, as per the context of the problem.

EngageEngage
Messages
203
Reaction score
0
Hi, I've been working on writing the wave function in terms of momentum eigenfunctions. The only problem I have with the derivation is the last step, which allows me to write:

[tex]\Psi(x) = \int^{\infty}_{-\infty} \phi(p)u_{p}(x)dp[/tex]
where
[tex] u_{p}(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\hbar}}e^{\frac{ipx}{\hbar}}[/tex]
What allows me to do so? I haven't found a way to prove this. I know that I can write the wave function like so:
[tex]\Psi(x) = \sum c_{n}u_{n}[/tex]
as long as i have a complete basis, but how do I go from this to the integral? Or is this irrelevant? his is on Griffiths QM Ed2 on page 104, but all he says is "Any (square-integratable) function f(x) can be written in the form [what i showed above]" I haven't found anywhere where he proves this or expects one to prove this in the problems.

Can someone please tell me how to get started on proving this? If anyone can help me out with this one I would appreciate it greatly.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The u_p are a complete basis. This is the subject of Fourier analysis. If u_n are complete you have a sum over the integers n. The index p is continuous. So you have to move from a sum to an integral to add them all up. What exactly do you have to PROVE?
 
I think you just answered my question. I spaced that p is continuous. So that's why I can rewrite the sum like the integral with no troubles then. Its nothing i have to prove, I just didn't understand why I could go to the integral from the sum ( i was thinking that p was quantized for some reason), but with p being continuous this makes sense. Thanks a lot for the help!
 
One more thing... remember that when you try to find [tex]\phi(p)[/tex], you have to change the sum to an integral as well... i.e.

[tex]\phi(p) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi(x) u_p^*(x) dx[/tex]
 
Thanks for the help. Yeah I see that one because it is just the Fourier transform and inverse from there.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K