Why Denote Group Operation with Multiplication?

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The discussion revolves around the notation used to denote group operations in abstract algebra, specifically the preference for multiplication or juxtaposition over addition. Participants explore the implications of this choice on understanding group theory, its applications, and potential alternatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the use of multiplication notation for groups, suggesting it causes confusion, especially when transitioning between additive and multiplicative contexts.
  • Another participant argues that while the notation may be confusing initially, it is standard and unlikely to change.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that using addition for group operations would be inappropriate for matrix groups, where multiplication is the natural operation.
  • Some participants propose that the preference for multiplication may stem from its utility in linear algebra and its connection to matrix operations, particularly in representing rotations and reflections.
  • One participant notes that in practical applications of group theory, the focus is often on more complex groups rather than basic examples like integers under addition.
  • Another participant suggests using alternative symbols (e.g., \star or \ast) to denote group operations, rather than sticking to traditional multiplication or addition.
  • A later reply emphasizes the readability of omitting explicit operation symbols in expressions, arguing that this can enhance clarity.
  • One participant recommends introducing a new notation for groups while explaining both multiplicative and additive notations immediately thereafter.

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Participants express differing opinions on the appropriateness of using multiplication versus addition for group operations. There is no consensus on a preferred notation, and multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of each choice.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the confusion arising from the transition between additive and multiplicative notations, particularly in educational contexts. The discussion also reflects the varying contexts in which group theory is applied, which may influence preferences for notation.

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Why Denote Group Operation with Multiplication??

When groups are introduced in most abstract algebra texts, the operation is denoted by multiplication or juxtaposition and addition notation is reserved for abelian groups.

This seems to cause a lot of unnecessary confusion. Professors often rely completely on modular arithmetic (additive) to motivate arbitrary quotient groups (multiplicative), so students must constantly translate between the two notations. Other key examples of groups are the integers, rationals, reals and complex numbers, all under addition.

When rings are introduced there is even more confusion, since the group aspect of a ring is denoted by addition, and a ring under multiplication is not a group at all.

It seems to me that it would make more sense to introduce monoids with the multiplication/juxtaposition notation (to emphasize connection to rings) and use addition for group notation.

One might argue that it is important to distinguish between abelian and nonabelian groups. In this case, a more acceptable notation for nonabelian groups could be the composition notation of functions. In particular this would highlight the connection to the group of bijections of a set and avoid confusion with multiplication in a ring.

What do you guys think? I'm not too far into math myself, so I might have overlooked a key reason that multiplicative notation is used for groups.
 
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It's just notation. I admit it is confusing at first, but you grow used to it.

Maybe you're right that other notations are better, but the notation we use now is standard. It's impossible to change.
 


I don't find the different notations for group operations particularly confusing.

Most of the useful groups are matrix groups. It would be very confusing to use the + notation for them, since the group operation is matrix multiplication.
 


I suspect the preference for multiplication may be because of linear algebra and matrix multiplication.

I've been getting into linear algebra recently after neglecting it for years and I've been really floored by just how useful matrix multiplication notation is once you pay attention.
Matrix multiplication (among other things) gives a general way to represent the groups of vector rotations and reflections in any dimension.

Speaking of rotations, the group of rotations of the complex roots of unity is one of the jewels of mathematics. Seeing the deep beauty of e^(i*pi) requires understanding that the complex n-th roots of 1 are groups under complex multiplication, which may be the other big reason for prefering multiplication to addition.
 


This seems to cause a lot of unnecessary confusion. Professors often rely completely on modular arithmetic (additive) to motivate arbitrary quotient groups (multiplicative), so students must constantly translate between the two notations. Other key examples of groups are the integers, rationals, reals and complex numbers, all under addition.

While this maybe true in the lecture theatre, in real world applications of group theory (whether in industry or journal papers) you aren't studying (ℝ,+). You list examples that first years are familiar with. But you learn the theory because you want to study other groups. Which leads to...

Fredrik said:
Most of the useful groups are matrix groups. It would be very confusing to use the + notation for them, since the group operation is matrix multiplication.

Adding to this, if you are doing groups theory, you'll be using representation theory, and the representation is always matrix multiplication.
 
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Is this discussion whether to use \cdot or + to denote the binary operation in a group ?? The only reasonable way is to choose none of the 2, an example would be \star, or even better \ast.
 


Multiplicative notation has the advantage that one doesn't have to explicitly write the symbol for the group operation. Who wants to have to write things like ##a\cdot b \cdot a^{-1} \cdot b^{-1}## or ##a * b * a^{-1} * b^{-1}## when ##aba^{-1}b^{-1}## conveys the meaning just as effectively (arguably more so because it's easier to read)?
 


The approach that I would recommend is to use a new notation like ##a\star b## when we define the term "group", and then immediately explain "multiplicative notation" ##ab## and "additive notation" ##a+b##.
 

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