Why do females actually live longer?

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The discussion centers around the reasons why females tend to live longer than males, exploring various theories, observations, and humorous anecdotes. The scope includes biological, social, and behavioral factors, as well as personal anecdotes and speculative reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that women live longer due to social factors, such as not having wives, which is humorously reiterated multiple times.
  • One participant humorously attributes longevity to women being "lionesses" and having the last word in conversations.
  • Another participant mentions a study from Scandinavia indicating that households with grandmothers had more surviving children, hinting at biological or evolutionary explanations.
  • Genetic factors are proposed, noting that men have fewer chromosomes and higher mortality rates in early life, which may contribute to the longevity gap.
  • Some participants discuss the impact of lifestyle choices, such as driving habits, with one noting that men drive more and are involved in more fatal accidents.
  • Anecdotal evidence is presented, with one participant stating that in their family, males outlive females, suggesting variability in longevity across different contexts.
  • Another participant speculates that societal changes, such as increased suicide rates among teenage boys and rising smoking rates among teenage girls, may influence longevity trends.

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Participants express a range of humorous and serious viewpoints, with no clear consensus on the reasons for the longevity difference. Multiple competing explanations are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some claims rely on anecdotal evidence or personal experiences, and there are references to studies that are not fully detailed or verified within the discussion. The conversation includes speculative reasoning and humor, which may affect the seriousness of the claims made.

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I see girls/women on this forum already posting so many topics about terrible things that go on in the world and express excessive empathy to everything and everyone and feel terrible if someone/something else feels terrible you would expect them to die from a nervous breakdown when they are 25.

Any ideas why women actually live longer, on average?
 
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They don't have wives
 
Maybe because the X has four lines and a Y three...
 
mgb_phys said:
They don't have wives

I think you might be on to something.
 
Cause deep inside we are a lioness, hear us roar !

fiercewhitelioness.jpg
 
mgb_phys said:
They don't have wives

No arguments here, you hit the mark! :approve:
 
In order to make a person's life miserable on a daily basis one must outlive said person by at least one day.
 
In the beginning God asked man and woman if they had any requests. Man said "I would gladly give up 10 years of my life if that life was spent with a lovely woman to love."
Woman said, "I want those extra 10 years if I got to put up with him."
 
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So they can always have the last word.
 
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Damn, those are three gems right there. I think women will outlive me because I put so much of myself into making jokes for the people of PF to not only enjoy, but share with loved ones as well.
 
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mgb_phys said:
They don't have wives

In Norway, they do.
 
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Seriously speaking, I have read about the research done somewhere in Scandinavia (was it Sweden?). They browsed old census registers (or church books, or something similar). Most of the country was inhabiteted by people living in separate households, so many other factors were automatically eliminated. What they found was that those families living with Gradmothers had - on average - more surviving kids. That hints at simple biological/evolutionary explanation.

Somehow I can't google it right now.
 
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In my family, the males outlive the females by atleast 10 years. Both sides. So this female thing never really applied to me.
 
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mgb_phys said:
They don't have wives

hypatia said:
Cause deep inside we are a lioness, hear us roar !

fiercewhitelioness.jpg

Ask a male a question, a nice, coherent and concise answer.

Ask a woman a question, and bandwidth exceeeded.

(No, no typo, I mean really, really exceeeeded).
 
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BobG said:
Ask a male a question, a nice, coherent and concise answer.

Ask a woman a question, and bandwidth exceeeded.

(No, no typo, I mean really, really exceeeeded).

Ladies and gentlemen, PhysicsForums presents a nice and concise answer to the topic's question! [applaud]
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But I am pretty sure that women on average outlive even single men, how is that possible?
 
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Crazy Tosser said:
Ladies and gentlemen, PhysicsForums presents a nice and concise answer to the topic's question! [applaud]



[back to the topic]
But I am pretty sure that women on average outlive even single men, how is that possible?

Well...it's because we are just awesome like that!
Simple answer.
 
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Crazy Tosser said:
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But I am pretty sure that women on average outlive even single men, how is that possible?
Genetics - men have half a chromosome less and suffer higher pre-natal and infant mortality so that although slightly more males are conceived about equal numbers survive childhood.

Evolution - males compete with other males for females. So it's in his genes best interest to have a strong youth that can fight off other males. If he dies younger after the genes don't care, they have already made lots of copies.

In more recent times war and manual/dangerous jobs have taken a toll on men. This is changing in most developed countries and the survival gap is being reduced.
Now society has an appreciable effect, suicide among teenage boys is much higher, but smoking is rising faster among teenage girls.
 

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