Why do Manganate(VII) ions need scidic conditions?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of acidic conditions for the oxidizing behavior of manganate(VII) ions (MnO4-) in aqueous solutions. Participants explore the role of acidity in enhancing the oxidizing capabilities of permanganate ions, comparing it to other reactions and considering various conditions under which permanganate can act as an oxidizing agent.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the repulsion between negatively charged permanganate ions and other negatively charged ions, such as Cl-, necessitates the presence of positively charged H+ ions to facilitate the reaction.
  • Another participant argues that permanganate can act as an oxidizing agent in neutral and alkaline conditions, indicating that the question may be overly restrictive.
  • A different participant notes that the question might be focused on why acidic conditions specifically enhance the oxidizing capabilities of permanganate ions, questioning whether acidity acts like a catalyst.
  • One participant points out that the standard electrode potential for the reaction in acidic conditions is more positive than in neutral conditions, implying a stronger oxidizing ability.
  • There is a repeated suggestion to consider LeChatelier's principle in understanding the reaction dynamics.
  • A participant questions the definition of a catalyst and whether it is consumed in the reaction, indicating a need for clarity on the role of acidity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the necessity of acidic conditions for permanganate's oxidizing ability, with some asserting that it can function in other pH environments. The discussion remains unresolved as multiple perspectives are presented without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different reaction conditions and the implications of electrode potentials, but there is no resolution on the specific role of acidity or the definition of a catalyst in this context.

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Homework Statement



MnO_4^{-} + 8H^{+} + 5e^{-} \rightleftharpoons Mn^{2+} + 4H_2O

1. Explain why the presence of an acid is necessary for aqueous permanganate ions to function as an oxidizing agent.

2. Give two reasons for the aqueous permanganate ions acting as an oxidizing agent in acidic solutions.

The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing I can think about is the similarity between this reaction and the Iodine-peroxodisulphate reaction where the repulsion between the negative ions prevents fast reaction unless positively charged Fe^{3+} are present to catalyze the reaction.

So my guess is that since permanganate ions are negatively charged and ions that need to be oxidized like Cl^{-} are negatively charged they repel each other. So a positive ion - the H^{+} ion is needed to make the reaction happen.

I know this explanation is not perfect because permanganate ions also oxidize ions like Fe^{2+}.

So any ideas?
 
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The question is invalid - permanganate acts as an oxidizing agent not only in acidic conditions, it also works in neutral and alkaline solutions, just products are different (compare http://www.titrations.info/permanganate-titration).

Won't it be enough to take a look at the reaction equation and think in terms of LeChatelier's principle?

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I got the question from an A-Level Chemistry textbook in a chapter on electrochemistry.

The question may be referring to the specific reaction and why the presence of an acid improves the the oxidizing capabilities of permanganate ions.

Does it act like a catalyst?
 
I say this because the standard electrode potential for the above reaction is more positive than the standard electrode potentials for the reactions in neutral conditions.
 
Do as I told you: take a look at the reaction equation, think in terms of LeChatelier's principle.

ashwinnarayan said:
Does it act like a catalyst?

What is catalyst definition? Is it consumed in the reaction?
 

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