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That's pretty much it. Why do they have 0 Oxidation state?
Why do metals in metal carbonyls have 0 OS?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the oxidation state of metals in metal carbonyls, specifically questioning why these metals are considered to have a 0 oxidation state. The scope includes conceptual clarification and exploratory reasoning regarding oxidation states in coordination compounds.
Discussion Character
- Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants question the reasoning behind the metals in metal carbonyls having a 0 oxidation state.
- One participant suggests that oxidation number represents a hypothetical charge if a compound were ionic, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the concept.
- Another participant clarifies that carbonyls are not ionic compounds, implying that the oxidation state concept may not apply in the same way.
- There is confusion about whether a 0 oxidation state means that metals cannot donate electrons, with one participant questioning the absoluteness of "never" in this context.
- It is noted that while metals in carbonyls do not donate electrons, they may do so in other types of compounds.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express uncertainty and confusion regarding the implications of a 0 oxidation state, and there is no consensus on the interpretation of oxidation states in this context.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations in understanding the definitions and implications of oxidation states, particularly in non-ionic compounds like carbonyls. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of electron donation in relation to oxidation states.
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