Why do so many people take so many notes?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons why students take extensive notes during lectures, particularly in calculus and physics classes. Participants explore various motivations for note-taking, including memory retention, engagement with the material, and teaching methods that emphasize the importance of recording information.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that writing notes helps with memory retention, as they find they recall concepts better when they write them down.
  • Others argue that taking notes may not be necessary if students already understand the material, questioning the effectiveness of copying down information that seems obvious.
  • One participant reflects on their personal experience of not taking notes, suggesting that they found little value in reviewing them later.
  • Another participant mentions that note-taking can serve as a strategy to stay awake during dull lectures.
  • A participant who taught physics emphasizes the importance of writing down problem-solving techniques, even if they seem trivial, to help students understand the reasoning behind their approaches.
  • Some express that taking notes might hinder their ability to fully engage with the lecture, as they focus on writing rather than understanding the spoken material.
  • There are mentions of differing educational backgrounds influencing note-taking habits, with some feeling pressured to record everything said by instructors.
  • One participant suggests that learning to take good notes is a vital skill, even if the material seems trivial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity or effectiveness of note-taking. Multiple competing views remain regarding its value, with some advocating for its benefits while others question its utility.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the importance of note-taking based on their individual experiences and educational backgrounds. There is a lack of agreement on the effectiveness of note-taking as a learning strategy, and some participants highlight the potential distraction it poses to understanding the material being taught.

  • #31
I take the notes. Cause hey, you never know if you might your notebook.
 
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  • #32
I take notes in a class, or for that matter when I read a book to help organize my thoughts IN MY HEAD. Years after I took a course and was forced to revisit a subject long forgotten, right now I am having to remeber all of my Fourier Optics and electronics to help design and build a device which I hope to patent at some time, my notes are helping to bring it back into my head quickly and without too much aggravation. The original poster appears to be either still in high school or in the first couple of years of university. The lack of careful note taking may just jump up and bite him/her because they will not have these carefully prepared documents in their arsenal of tricks etc...
 
  • #33
It seems obvious the answer... take notes in classes you need to take notes in... that may not be the same class for everyperson.
 
  • #34
I write down lots of stuff, even when reading a textbook. I hardly refer to those notes again, but a hand moving makes a world of difference to me. Notes to me, are for helping me to absorb whatever I am learning at the moment.
 
  • #35
Yes, taking notes helps to cycle the information around, even if you never refer to them. I'm constantly writing things down, especially when actively thinking about something. The basic idea is that the more ways you experience something, the fuller your understanding of it can become. (That's a very basic explanation.) I've read some people learn better visually, as opposed to verbally, so actually seeing the words or diagrams can help. There's also a disorder, I think it's called graphophilia, where people feel a compulsion to write. You can find plenty of information about compulsions, but I haven't been able to find anything online about writing compulsions; My only source is a special I saw on TV.
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  • #36
Dr Transport said:
I take notes in a class, or for that matter when I read a book to help organize my thoughts IN MY HEAD. Years after I took a course and was forced to revisit a subject long forgotten, right now I am having to remeber all of my Fourier Optics and electronics to help design and build a device which I hope to patent at some time, my notes are helping to bring it back into my head quickly and without too much aggravation. The original poster appears to be either still in high school or in the first couple of years of university. The lack of careful note taking may just jump up and bite him/her because they will not have these carefully prepared documents in their arsenal of tricks etc...

This is the reason I'm learning to take better notes, not in class notes, but book notes, class notes, and anyting else for that matter because this is the best for long term. I can survive in most classes wihtout taking notes at all but when classes or projects start getting complicated, i think this is the way to go to maximize your time. Taking good notes also helps you figure the algorithm for most problems in classes anyways :-p
 
  • #37
You do whatever suits you, for me - I find then when I write down something, I can remember things better... Even when I am reading a physics book, sometimes I take a notebook and copy what it says in the book, because somehow - I can remember it.
 
  • #38
When I was an undergrad, I took copious notes. Whenever someone had a question about something they couldn't remember from lecture, they'd come to me. However, I didn't just write everything the prof said without listening, like many students do, but was organizing the notes into outlines as I was writing it, so it was also quick to skim for content when I needed something later. I've found that there are sometimes things that seem completely obvious, but when you go back later, realize it isn't quite as obvious as you first thought. This is where plentiful notes come in handy.

You'd also be amazed at how much of what you don't continue to use, you eventually forget. For me, it's that stuff that has become most useful to have notes on. I've kept my notes from a few classes, and they are an easier reference than the textbooks. For example, we covered far more statistics in my statistics class than I have ever needed to use since then, but when I'm designing a new experiment and need to consider a design I don't frequently use, it helps to go back to those notes and remind myself of just what comparisons are allowable and what the limitations and assumptions need to be.

As I gained more familiarity with subjects, I could do a lot more shorthand in my notes, and didn't need to write down as much.

I'm also one of those people who remembers things better if I've written it. There are just different learning styles for different people. Some learn by reading, some by listening, some by doing, some by writing. I learn best by doing, writing and talking about it later (actually, that has always been the way I learn best, to discuss answers with other people...conversation on a topic really sticks with me). It makes it more active learning rather than passive for me.

However, some people just take tons of notes because they aren't really listening and are hoping they'll figure it out later. They're the ones that are fun to play with as a lecturer. You can tell strange stories and jokes and while most of the class is laughing (or groaning), there are those who are busy scribbling down your jokes. :smile:
 
  • #39
Moonbear said:
They're the ones that are fun to play with as a lecturer. You can tell strange stories and jokes and while most of the class is laughing (or groaning), there are those who are busy scribbling down your jokes. :smile:

I'm going to remember that for future use.
 

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