Why do we feel gravitational acceleration from the Earth and not from the Sun?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why we perceive gravitational acceleration from the Earth rather than from the Sun. It explores concepts related to gravitational forces, centripetal acceleration, and the effects of gravity from celestial bodies, focusing on theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that while gravitational acceleration near the Earth is measured as g, the centripetal acceleration towards the Sun is also a factor, though its effect may be negligible at large distances.
  • Others argue that we do not "feel" the Sun's gravitational force because we are in free fall around it, experiencing the same acceleration as our local reference frame, which is the Earth.
  • It is noted that variations in gravity due to the Moon and Sun do exist, contributing to phenomena like tides, but these effects are minimal on a human scale.
  • One participant points out that while we measure weight based on the force opposing Earth's gravity, there is no opposing force to the Sun's gravity, which could be felt if one were on a solid surface near the Sun.
  • Mathematical calculations presented indicate that the gravitational acceleration from the Sun on Earth is very small, approximately 0.006 m/s², which is comparable to the centripetal acceleration experienced in Earth's orbit.
  • Another participant reinforces that a scale on Earth would only register the gradient of gravitational force, not the absolute force from the Sun.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the perception of gravitational forces from the Earth and the Sun, with no consensus reached on the primary reasons for these perceptions.

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The discussion includes mathematical expressions and assumptions about gravitational forces and their effects, which may depend on specific conditions and definitions not fully explored in the conversation.

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The acceleration near the earth, due to the force of gravity is g. Now every particle when moving in a curve trajectory had a centripetal acceleration towards the center (say the sun) a=(v^2)/R.
If this is true why we measure weight only with the account of g?
I guess when R is big it might be neglected, but still I wonder 🤔
 
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You don't "feel" a gravitational force from the Sun because you feel the same acceleration the Earth does, so you accelerate the same as all your local references. So you just go around the Sun without noticing anything.

You do see variation in gravity due to the presence of the moon and sun, though. This is the cause of tides and spring tides. It's just not a very large effect on a human scale, and depends on the gradient of the gravitational field strength, not the strength itself.
 
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ejacques said:
If this is true why we measure weight only with the account of g?
With a scale, we don't measure the Earth's gravitational force directly, just the force that opposes it.

But nothing opposes the Sun's gravitational force.
 
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The Earth, and everything on it, is in free fall around the Sun as we move in our orbit. But we are not in free fall around the Earth. Hence you feel the Earth's surface pushing back up on you. If you could stand on a solid surface on the Sun you would absolutely 'feel' the Sun's gravity. Or if we built a giant shell around the Sun and could stand on it without moving in an orbit we would also 'feel' the Sun's gravity.
 
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ejacques said:
I guess when R is big it might be neglected, but still I wonder 🤔
If you do the maths, then the gravitational acceleration of the Earth from the Sun is very small:
$$g_{s} = \frac{GM_s}{R^2} = 0.006 m/s^2$$And, using ##T = \frac{2\pi R}{v}## for the period of the Earth's circular orbit, we can rewrite the equation for centripetal acceleration:
$$a_c = \frac{4\pi^2 R}{T^2} = 0.006 m/s^2$$
 
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PeroK said:
If you do the maths, then the gravitational acceleration of the Earth from the Sun is very small:
And no matter how large it would be, a scale on Earth would only be affected by its gradient, as @Ibix noted.
 
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