Why do we need two representations of SU(3)

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The discussion centers on the necessity of two representations of SU(3) in understanding the structure of quarks and mesons. It highlights the decomposition of the tensor product of triplet representations into symmetric and antisymmetric components, leading to the identification of the sextet and conjugate representations. The Eightfold Way is established through the combination of these representations, which is essential for Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD) and the color-charge space of quarks and antiquarks. Key references include A. Zee's "Quantum Field Theory in a Nutshell" and Lipkin's "Lie Groups for Pedestrians."

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if we use up, down and staring quarks and their own antiparticle we can create the Eightfold way and understand mesons by the hyper charge and isospin projections.
Summary: if we use up, down and staring quarks and their own antiparticle we can create the Eightfold way and understand mesons by the hyper charge and isospin projections.

I don't understand how the conjugate representation of SU(3) allows us to create a vector space of dimension 3, while SU(3) by itself cannot.
 
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You have three quarks, each in a triplet representation. 3 x 3 x 3 = 3 x (6 x 3bar) = (3 x 6) + (3 x 3bar) = 10 + 8 + 8 + 1. One of the octets is the eightfold way.
 
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staring quarks
Now there's a caption begging for a cartoon. :oldtongue:
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
You have three quarks, each in a triplet representation. 3 x 3 x 3 = 3 x (6 x 3bar) = (3 x 6) + (3 x 3bar) = 10 + 8 + 8 + 1. One of the octets is the eightfold way.
sorry I don't think I get the second step. Where did the 6 come from?
 
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Where did the 6 come from?

The algebra of SU(3). 3x3 has 9 elements, and they fall into the sextet and 3bar representations.
 
q^{a} \left( = u , d , s \right) \in \{ 3 \}, a 3-vector in the fundamental (or defining) representation space \{ 3 \} of \mbox{SU}(3). The 9-component tensor q^{a}q^{b} \in \{ 3 \} \otimes \{ 3 \} can be decomposed as follows q^{a}q^{b} = S^{ab} + A^{ab} , where S^{ab} = S^{ba} = \frac{1}{2} \left( q^{a}q^{b} + q^{b}q^{a}\right) , is symmetric (therefore 6-component) tensor, and A^{ab} = - A^{ba} = \frac{1}{2} \left( q^{a}q^{b} - q^{b}q^{a}\right), is anti-symmetric (i.e., 3-component) tensor. Since S^{ab} and A^{ab} don’t mix under \mbox{SU}(3) transformation, they must belong to different representation spaces: S^{ab} \in D^{6} \equiv \{ 6 \}, and A^{ab} \in D^{3} \equiv \{ \bar{3}\}. In order to complete the proof of \{ 3 \} \otimes \{ 3 \} = \{ 6 \} \oplus \{ \bar{3} \}, you need to know the answers to the following 2 questions: The tensor A^{ab} has only 3 independent components, i.e., it belongs to a 3-dimensional vector space, which we denoted by D^{3}. So, 1) why did we identify D^{3} with the conjugate representation space \{ \bar{3} \} and not with the space \{ 3 \}? In other words, where did the bar on the 3 come from? And 2) how do we know that D^{6} \equiv \{ 6 \} is an irreducible space?
 
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From a physics point of view we need it, e.g., for QCD's color-charge space, i.e., we want to have antiquarks carrying the "anticolors" of the quarks' colors.
 
Try reading the Appendix on group theory in A. Zee's "Quantum Field Theory in a Nutshell" @Jelly-bean . I know a good few people who found it helpful for clearing up things like why ##3\otimes 3 = 6 \oplus \bar{3}##. It's basically about two things:
  1. Symmetric and Antisymmetric tensors
  2. The Levi-Cevita symbol converting between upper and lower indicies
 
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Another good source is the old classic by Lipkin: "Lie groups for pedestrians".
 

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