Why does 'breaking' not occur in liquids and gases?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of 'breaking' in materials, particularly focusing on glass, and why this phenomenon does not occur in liquids and gases. Participants explore the atomic and molecular interactions involved in breaking and potential rejoining of materials, as well as conditions under which materials can fuse together.

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  • One participant questions whether it is possible to reassemble broken glass without melting it, suggesting that atomic configurations at the edges may prevent bonding.
  • Another participant notes that broken glass typically results in tiny shards, making reassembly difficult due to incompatibility of edges.
  • Concerns are raised about impurities and oxidation affecting the fresh edges of broken glass when attempting to rejoin them.
  • Air molecules trapped between the pieces are mentioned as a barrier to atomic bonding, potentially preventing reassembly.
  • One participant references "cold welding" in vacuum conditions as a method for solids to fuse, emphasizing the importance of removing contaminants.
  • Another participant introduces "Optical contacting" as a technique for fusing very clean glass surfaces, noting its application in optical component manufacturing.
  • A later reply discusses the phenomenon of tiny cracks in glass that may heal when the glass is straightened, suggesting that foreign atoms could hinder this healing process.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the feasibility of reassembling broken glass and the conditions necessary for materials to bond. There is no consensus on the nature of 'breaking' or the comparison with liquids and gases, indicating multiple competing views remain.

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The discussion highlights limitations related to assumptions about atomic interactions, the role of impurities, and the specific conditions required for bonding, which remain unresolved.

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I'm not exactly sure whether this qualifies as quantum mechanics, but it has to do with how atoms work: suppose a glass plate falls and breaks (into two pieces, let's say, to keep things simple) on the floor. Is it possible to put it back together so that there is no longer a crack between the two pieces?
Rule: you cannot melt the glass to remake the plate.

I think it is not possible, but I am not sure why. Is it because the atoms at the edge of one piece of the glass no longer have the proper electron configurations to bond with the other piece? Basically, what does it mean to 'break', and why does 'breaking' not occur in liquids and gases?
 
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Several reasons.
- In practice, it will not break into two pieces. Tiny shards will bust off, leaving the two edges incompatible.
- If the glass contains any impurities, the fresh edges will start to oxidize.
- Also, there will be air molecules trapped between the two halves as you try to put them back together. Might not seem like a lot, but it only had to prevent the atoms of silicon from joining back together within a molecule's distance.
 
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Google for "cold welding vacuum" for an example of the conditions under which solids can be persuaded to fuse together - removal fo contaminants from the surfaces and vacuum to keep air molecules from getting in the way.
 
Thank you
 
Also try a google search for "Optical contacting". This is about as close to what you describe as it is possible to get. Two very flat, very clean glass surfaces are brought into contact and effectively fuse together. It's used in the manufacture of certain optical components.
 
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Also try a google search for "Optical contacting". This is about as close to what you describe as it is possible to get. Two very flat, very clean glass surfaces are brought into contact and effectively fuse together. It's used in the manufacture of certain optical components.
I seem to remember that, when bent by a small amount, a glass sheet may open up tiny cracks in the outside surface of the curve and that these will rejoin when the sheet is straightened again. When the bending is repeated, different cracks appear. So the surface has 'healed' after the initial distortion. I guess that foreign atoms getting into a crack could prevent it healing up so the experiment may have to be done in a vacuum.
 

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