Why Does Dissolved NaCl in Water Taste Salty?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why dissolved sodium chloride (NaCl) in water tastes salty, exploring the relationship between the chemical state of NaCl and the physiological mechanisms of taste perception. The conversation touches on aspects of chemistry and physiology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the salty taste is due to the absence of a chemical change when NaCl dissolves, seeking further detail on this idea.
  • Another participant questions whether it is possible to taste anhydrous salts with a moist tongue.
  • Some participants assert that salt can only be tasted when it is dissolved in water, emphasizing the role of dissolved ions in taste perception.
  • A participant explains that taste depends on substances being dissolved and suggests that the olfactory sense may require moisture as well.
  • One contributor posits that the presence of Na+ and Cl- ions is sufficient for the salty taste, regardless of their solid form.
  • Another participant discusses the specific regions of the tongue responsible for detecting salty taste, indicating that the question may pertain more to physiology than chemistry.
  • A participant expresses agreement with the physiological perspective and acknowledges the complexity of proving taste mechanisms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the taste of salt is linked to its dissolved state and the presence of ions, but there is some debate regarding the implications for taste perception and the role of physiology. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how taste is detected.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of the relationship between taste and the state of substances, indicating that the discussion may involve assumptions about physiological processes and the nature of taste perception.

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Homework Statement


If NaCl dissociates into Na+ and Cl- ions when dissolved in water, why does the solution still taste salty?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I think its because a chemical change hasn't happened. Am I right? Can someone go into a bit more detail please?
 
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Is it possible to taste anhydrous salts (with a moist tongue)?
 
So we can only taste salt when its dissolved in water?
 
You are asking a physiology question. Sodium chloride dissolves and is ionized in water. Taste depends on substances being dissolved when they contact our tongue and its tastebuds. I suspect that olfactory sense works similarly, but maybe our "buds" there need to be at least a little bit moist.
 
Well the people above me are most likely correct but I think the answer is even simpler. Our taste of the salt water depends just on the Na+ ion and Cl- ion being present. They do not have to be in solid form. Thats why we still taste the salt in the salt water.

Also when you put solid salt in your mouth. Your tongue is what?
 
ace123 said:
Well the people above me are most likely correct but I think the answer is even simpler. Our taste of the salt water depends just on the Na+ ion and Cl- ion being present. They do not have to be in solid form. Thats why we still taste the salt in the salt water.

Also when you put solid salt in your mouth. Your tongue is what?

We have four tastes and each is detected on a corresponding region of the tongue. Salty taste is detected on a specific region, different from each of the other three regions (being for sweet, bitter, and sour). This is why the original question may really be about physiology. How to account for any particular ions about taste on the tongue -- can't say; and I would not really want to suggest experimenting with this through this online forum (safety problem in case someone does something foolish or dangerous). Chemistry instruction typically and sensibly discourages the tasting of substances
 
LOL. I think you misunderstood me b/c I wasn't doubting your answer at all. In fact I completely agree that its a physiology question. And I know about the different regions...

I think it would be difficult to prove this because of the fact that it's a physiology question. It's like saying what came first the chicken or the egg? But what I was saying was my own thinking. Which may or may not be correct.
 
temaire said:
So we can only taste salt when its dissolved in water?

Yes. You don't taste the solid, just that fraction that has dissolved from it.
 
Thanks guys, you've really driven the point hard.
 

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