Why Does (e^(1+i*2*pi))^(1+i*2*pi) Not Equal e^((1+i*2*pi)(1+i*2*pi))?

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The discussion centers on the expression \((e^{1+i*2\pi})^{1+i*2\pi}\) and its comparison to \(e^{(1+i*2\pi)(1+i*2\pi)}\). Participants explore the validity of exponent laws in the context of complex numbers, particularly focusing on the implications of branch choices in complex logarithms.

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  • One participant asserts that the exponent laws are only valid for real numbers, suggesting that this is a reason for the discrepancy.
  • Another participant provides a detailed algebraic manipulation showing that \((e^{1+i2\pi})^{1+i2\pi}\) simplifies to \(e\), while \(e^{(1+i2\pi)(1+i2\pi)}\) results in \(e^{1-4\pi^2}\), which is not equal to \(e\).
  • A different participant introduces the concept of branch selection in complex logarithms, explaining that when dealing with complex numbers, particularly with non-zero imaginary parts and non-rational exponents, one must choose a branch of the logarithm to define expressions like \(z^a\).
  • This participant illustrates their point with an example involving \(e^{i\pi/4}\) and discusses how the choice of argument affects the outcome.

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Participants express differing views on the application of exponent laws to complex numbers, with some emphasizing the limitations of these laws in the complex domain while others focus on the necessity of branch selection for complex logarithms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these factors on the original expression.

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There are limitations related to the assumptions about the branches of logarithms and the definitions used for complex exponentiation, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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(e^{1+i*2*pi})^{1+i*2*pi}=e^{(1+i*2*pi)(1+i*2*pi)}
why is this false (according to Wolfram Alpha) ?
 
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Because the exponent laws are only true for real numbers.
 
##\begin{align}
(e^{1+i2\pi})^{1+i2\pi}&=(e\cdot e^{i2\pi})\cdot(e\cdot e^{i2\pi})^{i2\pi}\\
&=(e\cdot1)(e\cdot1)^{i2\pi}=e
\end{align}##

but

##\begin{align}
e^{(1+i2\pi)(1+i2\pi)}&=e^{1-4\pi^2+i4\pi}\\
&=e^{1-4\pi^2}\cdot1\neq e
\end{align}##

The complex exponential is defined (I recall) so that ##e^{z_1+z_2}=e^{z_1}e^{z_2}##. Beyond that the algebra needs to be derived. This exponent "law" is only a law for real numbers.
 
Because you have to choose a branch of log to define ## z^a ## when z is complex with non-zero imaginary part and a is not a rational number. Take, e.g.,

(eiπ/4))iπ/4 .

Let z =eiπ/4 . Then

(eiπ/4))iπ/4=ziπ/4:=ezlog(iπ/4) . Using the

##Logz## branch, i.e., the main branch (because the argument of iπ/4 is precisely π/4 in the main branch Logz), we have

Log(iπ/4)=ln(1)+iπ/4=iπ/4 and then it works out:

(eiπ/4)iπ/4=(cos(π/4)+isin(π/4))iπ/4= ##( \sqrt 2/2+isin \sqrt 2/2)^{i\pi/4}= ( \sqrt 2/2+isin \sqrt 2/2)^{ln(1)+i\pi/4} =e^{-\pi^2/16}##

. But if you want to use ##2 \pi ## as argument, then you need to work in a branch where ## 2\pi ## makes sense.
 
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