Why Does My Dice Probability Calculation Differ from Expected Results?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the probability of rolling exactly one six when throwing a pair of dice. Participants explore different approaches to the problem, including the use of formulas for non-mutually exclusive events and complementary counting methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the probability using the formula for non-mutually exclusive events and arrives at 11/36, but finds a discrepancy when counting outcomes manually, yielding 10/36.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial calculation may involve double counting the outcome (6,6) and proposes a correction to the formula.
  • A later reply introduces a complementary counting method, suggesting that the total cases without a six plus the (6,6) case leads to 10 positive cases.
  • Another participant presents a simplified calculation that confirms the probability of 10/36 by considering the two scenarios of rolling a six on either die.
  • One participant acknowledges an error in their understanding, admitting to initially counting "at least one six" instead of "only one six."

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Participants express differing views on the correct approach to calculating the probability, with some suggesting corrections to earlier claims. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to arrive at the correct probability.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the counting methods and the definitions of the events being analyzed, which may affect the calculations presented.

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What is probability of throwing one six in a throw of pair of dice?
I was trying to calculate the probability of throwing only one six when throwing a pair of dice.
Using the formula for non-mutually exclusive events : P(A)+P(B)-P(A,B) I get 1/6+1/6-1/36=11/36
but when I count all the 36 possibilities on paper I get 10/36 ways of getting only one 6. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Seems like you are counting wrong.
 
You counted ##(6,6)## twice in ##P(A)+P(B)## but subtracted it only once.
 
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Thanks for your help. So it is 10/36=1/6+1/6-2/36
 
Thecla said:
Thanks for your help. So it is 10/36=1/6+1/6-2/36
Yes. A common trick for those questions is to use the complement statement. We have ##5^2## cases without a ##6## plus ##(6,6)##, which leaves ##10## positive cases.
\begin{align*}
P((\lnot A \wedge \lnot B)\vee (A\wedge B) )&=P(\lnot A \wedge \lnot B)+P(A\wedge B)\\&=P(\lnot A)\cdot P(\lnot B)+P(A)\cdot P(B)\\&=\dfrac{5}{6}\cdot\dfrac{5}{6}+\dfrac{1}{6}\cdot\dfrac{1}{6}\\&=\dfrac{26}{36}
\end{align*}
 
Simplest of all is $$p = \frac 1 6 \cdot \frac 5 6 + \frac 5 6 \cdot \frac 1 6 = \frac {10}{36}$$based on whether a six is thrown on the first die or not.
 
Dale said:
Seems like you are counting wrong.
Oops, sorry, I was wrong. I was counting “at least one 6” instead of “only one 6”
 

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