Why Does Spring Constant Decrease with Increased Load?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an observation in a simple harmonic motion (SHM) assignment where the spring constant appears to decrease with increasing load. The original poster presents a table of results showing mass, spring displacement, and calculated spring constants, expressing difficulty in rationalizing this trend.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster suggests that twisting of the spring may contribute to the observed decrease in spring constant with increased load. Participants inquire about the procedure used to determine the values in the table and the composition of the mass for each entry.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring potential reasons for the observed variation. One participant proposes the possibility of systematic error in the mass measurements, suggesting a reevaluation of the data with adjusted mass values.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of detailed information about the experimental procedure, which may affect the interpretation of the results. The original poster's data is derived from a previous thread, indicating potential constraints on the information available for analysis.

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Homework Statement


Ive worked out all of my values for my shm assignment. In the table of results i have found that my spring constant decreases with load applied.

Im stuggling to come with a good reason for this.

Number Mass (kg) Spring displacement (m) Spring constant (N/m)
1 0.05 0 n/a
2 0.1 0.0195 50.31
3 0.15 0.039 37.73
4 0.2 0.061 32.16
5 0.25 0.081 30.28

The Attempt at a Solution



So far all i can come up with is twist in the spring. That the greater load had a greater spring displacement and therefore any twist when the sping would be oscilating would be exaggerated.

Any help would be appreciated thanks
 
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What exactly was the procedure for determining the values in your table? What comprises the mass for each entry?
 
gneill said:
What exactly was the procedure for determining the values in your table? What comprises the mass for each entry?
The table is actually from this thread.
 
Without knowing from an eye-witness how the experiment was conducted we can only speculate on what might cause the observed variation. As a first guess I would say that the recorded mass values are actually on the heavy side by some constant offset (systematic error?). Subtract about 0.05kg from each mass value and take another look at the results.
 

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