Why does taking the logarithm of both sides not work?

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The discussion centers on the incorrect application of differentiation to the equation x = e^{-x}. The user attempted to differentiate both sides, leading to the erroneous conclusion that 1/x = -1. The correct approach involves rewriting the equation as f(x) = x - e^{-x} and differentiating this function, yielding f'(x) = 1 + e^{-x}, which is always positive, indicating that f(x) is an increasing function. This confirms that the equation e^{-x} = x has exactly one solution.

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Homework Statement
Differentiate x=e^{-x}

The attempt at a solution
\ln{x}=\ln{e^{-x}}
\ln{x}=-x
\frac{d}{dx}\left(\ln{x}\right)=\frac{d}{dx}\left(-x\right)
\frac{1}{x}=-1

The correct answer is 1+e^{-x}. I know how to solve it that way; however, why is the above method wrong? I know there are usually two variables, but I can't see any mathematical errors in my method.

Thank you.
 
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Hi Hypercubes! :smile:
Hypercubes said:
Differentiate x=e^{-x}

The correct answer is 1+e^{-x}.

Obviously a misprint, for "Differentiate x-e^{-x}" :wink:
 
Well, the exact question was "explain why the equation e^{-x} = x has exactly one solution", and the answer goes on to define f(x) = x-e^{-x} and says "Since f'(x) = 1 + e^{-x}, and 1 + e^{-x} > 0 for all x, the function f is increasing..."

So they set it to 0 to get the derivative. However, why was the method I used not valid?
 
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Your expression, x=e^{-x} is just that -- an expression. You cannot treat it as a function. In particular, you can't differentiate both sides and expect something meaningful to pop out. What you can do is to rewrite it as x-e^{-x} = 0, and now the quantity on the right hand side f(x)=x-e^{-x} can be treated as a function. You aren't differentiating both sides of f(x)=0. Just one.
 
Ah, I see. Thanks you both!
 
As a simple example. Take the equation 3x-2=x. This equation has 1 solution x=1. If you differentiate both sides though, you get 3=1 which is obviously not true.

This is because the undifferentiated equation is asking a fundamentally different question than the differentiated equation. The equation 3x-2=x is asking "When is the function f(x)=3x-2 equal to the function g(x)=x?" While the differentiated equation is asking "When is the slope of the function f(x) equal to the slope of the function g(x)?"
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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