Why Does the Domain Transform to Keep the Time Dependent Operator Self Adjoint?

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The discussion revolves around the self-adjointness of time-dependent operators in quantum mechanics, specifically the transformation of the domain of an operator under unitary evolution. Participants explore the implications of this transformation and address potential errors in a referenced text.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the domain of the time-dependent operator A(t) transforms to maintain self-adjointness, specifically noting the expression involving vectors Ψ and Φ.
  • Another participant suggests that the missing time dependence in the vectors is the reason for the confusion, proposing a corrected expression that includes unitary evolution.
  • A third participant points out a discrepancy regarding the domain of A(t), questioning whether it should be U(t)D(A) or U(t)⁺D(A), indicating a potential typo.
  • A later reply references a lemma from a specific text as addressing the initial issue raised, suggesting that the problem may stem from a misunderstanding of the material.
  • Another participant acknowledges the hint and identifies an error in the referenced book, providing a specific citation for clarity.
  • A final post includes a screenshot to illustrate the error noted in the text by Thaller.

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Participants express differing views on the correct transformation of the domain for the time-dependent operator, and there is no consensus on the resolution of the initial confusion regarding the expressions used.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and transformations of the operators and their domains, as well as the implications of the references cited by participants.

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Hi together ...

I encountered the following statement:
Operator A is self adjoint on D(A) then [tex]A(t) \equiv \exp(iHt) A \exp(-iHt)[/tex] is self adjoint on [tex]D(A(t)) \equiv \exp(-iHt) D(A)[/tex].

H is self adjoint, so that exp(...) is a unitary transformation. But why does the domain transform this way to keep the time dependent operator self adjoint? I don't get an expression like [tex](\Psi,A(t)\Phi)=(A(t)\Psi,\Phi) ~~~ \Psi, \Phi \in D(A(t))[/tex] if i use the definitions.

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Of course you don't get the last expression, because the "t" dependence on the vectors [itex]\Psi[/itex] and [itex]\Phi[/itex] is missing. With this <t> put into place, your expression should be

[tex]\left\langle U(t)\Psi, U(t)AU^{\dagger}(t) U(t)\Phi\right\rangle[/tex] which shows the needed invariance and s-a of the <evolved> operator.

The domain of the A(t) should be U(t)D(A), of course. The range of A(t) should be U(t) Range(A).

EDIT: Ammended by the post #4 of this thread below.
 
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Thanks, but in the statement i quoted the domain of A(t) isn't U(t)D(A) but [tex]U(t)^+ D(A)[/tex] and then we have [tex](U(t)^+ \Psi, U(t)AU(t)^+ U(t)^+ \Phi)[/tex]. Is this a typo?
 
The issue in post #1 is addressed by the Lemma 4.3, page 225 of E. Prugovecki's "Quantum Mechanics in Hilbert Space".
 
Thanks a lot for the hint. So it was an error in the book. For the record: B. Thaller - The Dirac Equation. Section 1.2.2.

Greetings.
Tommy
 
Please, see the screenshot attached. It's a small error by Thaller.
 

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