Why Does the Sky Appear Blue? Why Can Stars See Us?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons for the blue appearance of the sky and the visibility of stars from Earth, particularly during the daytime. It explores concepts related to light scattering, brightness comparisons, and observational techniques in astronomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains that the blue color of the sky is due to the scattering of short-wavelength light by air particles, primarily nitrogen and oxygen.
  • Another participant notes that from the moon, Earth appears much brighter than any star, suggesting that reflected light from Earth surpasses the intensity of scattered light from the atmosphere.
  • A follow-up question seeks clarification on whether the reflected light from Earth is indeed brighter than the scattered light from the atmosphere.
  • It is mentioned that brighter stars can be viewed during the day with an amateur telescope due to the differences in behavior between extended sources (the sky) and point sources (stars) when magnified.
  • One participant compares the visibility of the Moon in the daytime sky, asserting that it can be seen against the blue sky, and argues that with sufficient magnification, stars could also be made to appear as bright as the Sun.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the visibility of stars during the day and the comparative brightness of reflected light from Earth versus scattered light from the atmosphere. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which stars could be visible in daylight.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the effectiveness of telescopes in daytime observations and the specific conditions needed for magnifying stars. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or observational specifics necessary to support these claims.

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Hello,
I have a novice question.

I know that the sky color is blue (at noon, when there is no clouds), because the air particles (mostly N2 and a little O2 ...and other) scatter short-wavelength light more than longer wavelengths.

That is why we can't see the stars trought the atmosphere in daytime (the scattered light is with much more intensity then the light emmited from the brightest star).

The question is why the stars can see us? All the pictures taken from above the atmosphere show the landscape of Earth trought the atmosphere, where in the landscape is noon.
 
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When viewed from say, the moon, the eart is much, much brighter than any star.
 
russ_watters said:
When viewed from say, the moon, the eart is much, much brighter than any star.

So the reflected light from Earth is brighter then the scattered light from atmosphere?
 
xzardaz said:
So the reflected light from Earth is brighter then the scattered light from atmosphere?

Yes. Although when it comes to stars it is possible to view the brighter stars during the day even with just a amateur telescope due to how extended sources (the sky) and point sources (stars) behave with increased magnification.

Note: If you don't know what you are doing never use a telescope while the sun is up...
 
Compare Moon in daytime sky. It is clearly visible against blue sky - although not as bright as many objects on ground or in sky lit by the same sunlight.

In clear sky, the disc of Sun is easily visible against blue sky, too. Since stars are inherently as hot as Sun, or slightly hotter or cooler, you should be able to magnify stars even in daytime sky to be almost as bright and distinctive, or even brighter and more distinctive, than Sun. Provided you are applying magnification starting hundreds of thousands of times, and apertures matching this (i. e. over a kilometre).
 

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