Why Does the Unruh-Hawking Model Precisely Predict a Thermal Radiation Spectrum?

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The discussion centers on the Unruh-Hawking model and its prediction of a thermal radiation spectrum. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of this model, particularly in relation to quantum mechanics and statistical mechanics, while questioning the reasons behind the model's specific predictions under constant acceleration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares a paper that they believe provides a simple explanation of Hawking radiation, noting that thermal properties do not depend on precise micro-properties of matter.
  • Another participant suggests a connection between quantum mechanics and statistics, proposing that transitioning from Minkowski space to Euclidean space may relate QFT calculations to statistical mechanics.
  • A participant reflects on a comment made by their astronomy professor regarding the analogy between Hawking radiation and Type-I supernovae, expressing uncertainty about the validity of this comparison.
  • One participant reiterates the question about why the model predicts a thermal spectrum specifically under constant acceleration and not in other scenarios, referencing an external link for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the interpretation of the Unruh-Hawking model and its implications, with no consensus reached on the reasons behind the thermal spectrum prediction or the analogy to supernovae.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the relationship between quantum field theory and statistical mechanics, as well as the implications of constant acceleration, which remain unresolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, black hole physics, and the interplay between quantum theory and statistical mechanics.

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I have the following article for explanation of Hawking - Unruh radiation:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0401/0401170.pdf .
It is the most simple explanation of Hawking radiation until now.

Peoples try to find microscopic explanation of this, but, thermal properties of matter are not dependend of matter's precise micro-properties. And the model above gives macroscopically right properties.

So can anyone give explanation why formule above gives precisely thermal spectrum of radiation. Why at constant acceleration and not at some different example.

Thermal spectrum is very primary thing, so derivation above is still to long.

It is not question for me, which quantum gravity theory is OK, but why the semi-classical theory above gives precisely thermical spectrum.
 
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I loved the paper.

About 30 seconds thought suggests to me that the connection here is an example of the (mysterious) connection between quantum mechanics and statistics. That is, adding one hidden dimension and going from Minkowski space to Euclidean space turns a QFT calculation into a statistical mechanics problem (from the point of view of the generator function, if I recall the correct term).

My guess is that there is a statistical mechanical basis for QFT hiding out there somewhere. Uh, I should mention that the above has been written without benefit of my copy of Peskin & Schroeder, and it's not a subject that I think about often.

Carl
 
That is an excellent paper.

Can you believe: I'm currently attending a community colledge, and my astronomy prof told us in the final week of class that Hawking radiation is basically the same thing as a Type-I supernova, only with a black hole in place of the dwarf star; the radiation released by the infall of material from the accretion disk! I said nothing; but I'm wondering if I should have.
 
LURCH, always remember that everything humans do should be analyzed from the point of view of social science ove physical science.

Yes, you did the right thing.

Carl
 
exponent137 said:
So can anyone give explanation why formule above gives precisely thermal spectrum of radiation. Why at constant acceleration and not at some different example.
A very interesting question. http://www.superstringtheory.com/blackh/blackh3a.html might help.
 

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