Why does toilet roll absorb water?

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The discussion centers on the mechanisms by which toilet paper absorbs water, exploring concepts such as capillary action, the structure of paper fibers, and the chemical properties of cellulose. Participants delve into both theoretical and practical aspects of this phenomenon.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that water moves up toilet paper due to absorption, questioning the underlying mechanisms that counteract gravity.
  • Another participant attributes the movement primarily to capillary action and diffusion, explaining that paper is made of hollow wood fibers.
  • A later reply elaborates on the chemical structure of paper fibers, highlighting the hydrophilic nature of cellulose and hemicellulose, which attract water through hydrogen bonding.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the concept of water potential gradient and suggests that the attraction between -OH groups and hydrogen bonds is more relevant to counteracting gravity.
  • Another participant introduces a humorous analogy comparing the structure of toilet paper to that of trees, suggesting a connection in their evolutionary design.
  • One participant seeks to relate the discussion to the concepts of cohesion and adhesion, indicating a desire to connect the topic to their current studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple viewpoints regarding the mechanisms of water absorption in toilet paper, with no consensus reached on the primary factors involved. Some emphasize capillary action, while others focus on chemical properties, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

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There are references to various scientific concepts such as capillary action, hydrogen bonding, and the structure of cellulose, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities or dependencies of these ideas.

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This discussion may be of interest to students studying chemistry, biology, or materials science, particularly those exploring the properties of water and its interactions with different materials.

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Simple question but not such a simple answer. If I place a piece of toilet paper so that it is just touching the surface of a bowl of water, the water will move up the toilet paper. I know the paper is "absorbing it" but how does it work? What is making it counteract gravity?
 
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In large part due to capillary movement of water. Paper is made of wood fibers which are hollow. Diffusion also plays a part - diffusion of water from an area of higher concentration to an area of low concentration. -- wet -> dry
 
jim mcnamara said:
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In large part due to capillary movement of water. Paper is made of wood fibers which are hollow. Diffusion also plays a part - diffusion of water from an area of higher concentration to an area of low concentration. -- wet -> dry

Thanks, yes that idea makes sense. I was thinking along the lines of what paper was made up of, as we are studying root structure in quite detail. Thanks for the feedback.
 
I'm not sure how much Chemistry you've had, so I'll keep this kind of simple.

Wood fibers are tube-shaped cells made primarily from cellulose, hemicellulose, and lignin.

If you remove the lignin from wood fibers, you get paper fibers, also called pulp. Toilet paper is made from pulp. So pulp is basically tube-shaped fibers made from cellulose and hemicellulose.

Cellulose and hemicellulose are very hydrophilic, which means they have a strong affinity for water. This is because they have a lot of -OH groups. Water is attracted to -OH groups by hydrogen bonds. Hydrogen bonds aren't very strong, but the surface of each fiber has many, many -OH groups, so the water is held tightly to the paper fiber.

That's how absorption works when water is exposed to toilet paper.

(My first "real" job was in the Fiber Science lab at a large paper company.)
 
Thanks lisab, that along with jim's explanation is what I was after. I couldn't get my head around it. People where saying a water potential gradient, but I don't think that would account for the water actually counteracting gravity, but more the attraction between th e -OH groups and the H bonds. Thanks!
 
This is why nature took a page out of our book, and evolved trees out of toilet paper. If you doubt it, just take a sample of the wood from a tree; you'll see the very same structure of hollow tubes as is in toilet paper pulp. An excellent example of natural retcon.








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Dave -
What the heck is retcon?
 
jim mcnamara said:
Dave -
What the heck is retcon?

Retroactive Continuity. A good example is when DC Comics effectively negated a huge series of earlier works (by calling them 'alternate reality' stories) in order to bring disparate factors into line. If would be the same if all Spider-Man stories now showed him with biological web-shooters in order to match the movies.
 
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Can anyone relate this to cohesion and adhesion, as I think this would be a pathway that would benifit my learning as that is what we are covering in class.
 

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