Why Doesn't r=a(1+cosθ) Have a Dimple?

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The discussion revolves around the polar equation r = a(1 + cosθ) and its geometric properties, specifically questioning the presence of a dimple in the curve. Participants explore the characteristics of this curve in relation to definitions of dimples and compare it to other shapes like cardioids.

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  • Participants question the definition of a dimple and whether the curve's features align with this definition. There is also a comparison made to cardioids and their classification regarding dimples.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing differing views on whether the curve possesses a dimple and how to interpret its geometric properties. Some guidance is offered regarding the nature of the cusp in relation to the definitions being debated.

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There are references to external sources that may influence the definitions being discussed, and participants are considering the implications of varying interpretations of geometric terms.

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Why doesn't r = a(1+cosθ) have a dimple? I mean p=1, q=1 so q≤ p<2q and therefore r = a(1+cosθ) should have a dimple (like the curve in the bottom right corner of the image above)?
 
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It does have a dimple with a point. If q gets any smaller it loops inside itself.
 
LCKurtz said:
It does have a dimple with a point. If q gets any smaller it loops inside itself.

Is that considered to be a dimple? I thought dimples have a ''flat'' shape to them like the curve in the box on the bottom right?

Also, according to this page:

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3026536?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104158779553

A cardioid doesn't have a dimple? (Table 1)

Thanks
 
influx said:
Is that considered to be a dimple? I thought dimples have a ''flat'' shape to them like the curve in the box on the bottom right?

Also, according to this page:

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3026536?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104158779553

A cardioid doesn't have a dimple? (Table 1)

Thanks
Whether the cusp of a cardioid is regarded as a degenerate loop, a degenerate dimple, or distinct from both, doesn't strike me as terribly important. If I tell you a curve is an ellipse, does that mean it's not a circle?
 

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