Why Is 66 Added Instead of Subtracted for Reverse Reaction Ea?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the activation energy for the reverse reaction of an exothermic process, specifically addressing why a positive value is used in the formula despite the overall enthalpy change being negative.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the activation energy of the reverse reaction, using the formula Ea (rev) = ∆E + Ea (fwd), and arrives at a value of 59 KJ, questioning why the corrected answer is 73 KJ.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the practical aspects of the reaction, such as drawing a free energy diagram, could clarify the situation.
  • A different participant asserts that since the reverse reaction is endothermic, the activation energy should indeed be greater than that of the forward exothermic reaction.
  • One participant acknowledges understanding the correct answer but expresses confusion regarding the equation leading to what they perceived as an incorrect result.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of changing the sign of the energy change when considering the reverse reaction, indicating that the sign of the enthalpy change is opposite for the reverse direction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the activation energy calculation, with some agreeing on the need to change the sign of the enthalpy change while others remain puzzled by the initial equation used.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the calculations and the interpretation of the energy diagram, which may affect the understanding of the activation energy for the reverse reaction.

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Hello everyone,

Here's my question.
We have a reaction with an overal enthalpy change of -66KJ. The activation energy is 7KJ.
We want the Ea for the reverse reaction.

Formula:
Ea (rev) = ∆E + Ea (fwd)
So I wrote:
Ea (rev) = -66 + 7 = 59 KJ.

But the corrected exercise says: 66+7 = 73KJ.
Why did we add 66, if it's a negative value?

Thank you,

J.
 
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Now try to see all of this practically...the reaction itself is exothermic, the activation energy for the reverse reaction thus is greater then the forward assuming a single "transition state." Draw a free energy diagram, it should help greatly in understanding what's going on here.
 
So since the reverse reaction is ENDOthermic, then the Ea should be greater than in the reaction that was exothermic... Would this be the correct way to think?

~J.
 
vet: Do you know how to draw the energy diagram? It takes just a couple of minutes to learn it, and once you do, problems like this become a piece of cake.

Exothermic reaction, http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/education/bitesize/higher/img/chemistry/calculations_1/pe_diags/fig10.gif - the positive x-direction is the direction of the forward reaction.
 
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I do, and I understand why the answer is 73, but I was just puzzled by the equation, since it seemed to lead to the wrong answer...

Joanna.
 
Ea (rev) = ∆Erev + Ea (fwd)

Remember to change the sign --- the reaction is proceeding in the reverse direction, and the sign of the energy change for the reaction is opposite that for the forward.
 

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