Why is A=F and B=T in the Truth Table for Implication?

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The discussion revolves around the truth table for implication, specifically the expression A ⇒ B, and the interpretation of its values, particularly the case where A is false and B is true. Participants explore the meaning of the truth table and its implications in logical reasoning.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of the truth table for A ⇒ B, particularly the scenario where A is false (F) and B is true (T), seeking clarification on why this is the case.
  • Another participant offers an analogy, suggesting that A ⇒ B can be interpreted as "innocent until proven guilty," explaining that the truth of B when A is false is indeterminate and thus considered true in the logical framework.
  • Some participants reference the truth table for the biconditional A ↔ B, noting that it represents a different logical relationship and asserting that it is more definitive in its implications compared to A ⇒ B.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the truth table for implication, with some agreeing on the analogy of "innocent until proven guilty," while others remain uncertain about the implications of A being false and B being true. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the interpretation of these logical statements.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the assumptions underlying the truth tables, particularly regarding the implications of A being false and its effect on the truth value of B.

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The truth table for

[itex]A\Rightarrow B[/itex]

Means If A then B else Not B?

But the truth table is supposedly looking like this:

[itex] <br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> A & B & A\Rightarrow B \\<br /> T & T & T \\<br /> T & F & F \\<br /> F & T & T \\<br /> F & F & T<br /> \end{array}[/itex]

Only problem I have is A=F and B=T? Why is this ?
 
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I like to think of it as "innocent until proven guilty"! [itex]A\Rightarrow B[/itex] means "if A is true then B is true". It doesn't say what happens if A is false. So we can logically take it either way and we choose to say it is true.

Suppose your professor tells you "If you get an "A" on every test, I will give you an "A" for the course" and then

1) You get an "A" on every test and you get an "A" for the course. Was he telling the truth? Of course he was.

2) You get an "A" on every test and you do NOT get an "A" for the course. Was he telling the truth? No, of course not.

3) You, say, fail every test and do NOT get an "A" for the course. Was he telling the truth? Actually, you can't know since you haven't "tested" what would have happened if you had gotten an "A" on every test. But I could see no reason for accusing your professor of lying.

4) You get an A on every test except one (on which you get a "B") and you get an "A" for the course. Was he telling the truth? Again, he didn't say what would happen if you didn't get an "A" on every test- and it would be very foolish of you to go to your professor and complain! Again, he is "innocent until proven guilty".
 


Gregg said:
The truth table for

[itex]A\Rightarrow B[/itex]

Means If A then B else Not B?

But the truth table is supposedly looking like this:

[itex] <br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> A & B & A \Rightarrow B \\<br /> T & T & T \\<br /> T & F & F \\<br /> F & T & T \\<br /> F & F & T<br /> \end{array}[/itex]

Only problem I have is A=F and B=T? Why is this ?

The other one,

[tex] \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> A & B & A ? B \\<br /> T & T & T \\<br /> T & F & F \\<br /> F & T & F \\<br /> F & F & T<br /> \end{array}[/tex]

also has a name, it is called [tex]A \Leftrightarrow B[/tex] or "A if and only if B". This one really is "if A then B else not B"
 


g_edgar said:
The other one,

[tex] \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> A & B & A ? B \\<br /> T & T & T \\<br /> T & F & F \\<br /> F & T & F \\<br /> F & F & T<br /> \end{array}[/tex]

also has a name, it is called [tex]A \Leftrightarrow B[/tex] or "A if and only if B". This one really is "if A then B else not B"

thanks
 

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