Why is a probe field necessary in pump-probe experiments?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the necessity and function of a probe field in pump-probe experiments, which are commonly used in various experimental physics contexts. Participants explore the roles of both the pump and probe fields, their interactions with excited states, and the implications for measurements in different systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that the pump field excites the system to a state that is then measured by the probe field, which is typically a weak field to avoid significantly altering the state.
  • There is curiosity about how the probe field interacts with excited atoms, including whether it can cause them to return to the ground state or excite them further.
  • Some participants suggest that the probe field's frequency can be chosen to match the resonant frequency of the system, raising questions about the effects of such choices.
  • Examples of applications are discussed, such as measuring transmission changes in two-level systems and observing spin polarization decay, highlighting the versatility of pump-probe techniques.
  • Participants note that the probe must remain weak compared to the pump to ensure accurate measurements without drastically changing the initialized state.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the function and implications of the probe field, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist regarding its role and effects in pump-probe experiments. The discussion remains unresolved on several technical aspects.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the probe field's interaction with the excited state can vary based on experimental conditions, including the intensity and frequency of the probe relative to the pump. There are also mentions of specific applications that may not generalize across all experiments.

KFC
Messages
477
Reaction score
4
In many paper or book on laser, it is quite oftern to mention the pump and probe field. I understand what the pump field is, but what about the probe field? What we need a probe field? How does it work (how to "probe")? And why a probe field is always a weak field?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The pump part of the experiment excites the system to a state that you want to measure. ie: if you want to measure a plasmon gas, the pump laser excites the gas, if you want to measure the ballistic electron scattering in graphite, the pump laser excites the electrons so that they CAN ballistically scatter.

The probe laser does the measuring. You focus it on the excited region and measure whatever properties are of interest. It needs to be low energy so that can confidently say you have controlled the environment with the pump laser.
 
jpreed said:
The pump part of the experiment excites the system to a state that you want to measure. ie: if you want to measure a plasmon gas, the pump laser excites the gas, if you want to measure the ballistic electron scattering in graphite, the pump laser excites the electrons so that they CAN ballistically scatter.

The probe laser does the measuring. You focus it on the excited region and measure whatever properties are of interest. It needs to be low energy so that can confidently say you have controlled the environment with the pump laser.

Thanks. But how does it work? I wonder if the probe field will cause the excited atom to hop back to ground state so we can observed the emitted light? In addition, I wonder if probe field will also exicte the atom to upper state just like pump field does? What about if I choose the frequency of the probe field as the reasonant frequency of the system (take two-level system as example)?
 
KFC said:
Thanks. But how does it work? I wonder if the probe field will cause the excited atom to hop back to ground state so we can observed the emitted light?

Sure, that is possible.

KFC said:
In addition, I wonder if probe field will also exicte the atom to upper state just like pump field does?

That is possible, too. Generally speaking, pump-probe is a technique, which is useful for a whole bunch of experiments. It is very versatile and can be applied to a lot of situations, so there is no general answer to your questions, so let me just explain some examples.

In many - but not in all - experiments the transmission of the probe beam is of interest. So imagine you have a sample containing some two-level emitters, maybe atoms or quantum dots or whatever. Now you shine a weak pump pulse (resonant with some interesting transition) on that sample and measure the transmission. As you will see, most of the incoming pulse will be absorbed and there won't be much transmission. Now you turn on a strong pump beam, which is also resonant with the transition, but hits the sample under some angle, so that you do not measure the transmission of this beam. If the pump beam is strong enough, you will excite some of the two-level systems to the upper state. Accordingly, the transmission of the probe beam will increase, too, because there re now fewer atoms to excite. So compared to the first case, the differential transmission will have increased. If you choose an even large intensity for the pump beam, you might even see stimulated emission caused by the probe beam and therefore the intensity of the probe pulse after the sample will be higher than the bare probe beam alone. Now the really interesting thing is the high time resolution you can achieve with this kind of experiment.

If you use a strong pump beam, you might imagine that the excitation of the atoms has some temporal shape. The number of the atoms in the upper state will rise quickly and afterwards show some exponential decay due to spontaneous emission in most cases. Now you send the probe beam over some delay line so that you can change the relative time between the impact of the pump and the probe pulse. Now you scan the delay by moving the delay line and therefore get data about how many atoms are in the excited state at a time t after the pump pulse has arrived. As light is traveling so fast, you can get a time resolution in the femtosecond range by moving the delay line, which is one of the main advantages of this techniques.

As another application, you can also check, how fast spin polarization of an ensemble of two-level atoms decays. If you use a linearly polarized probe pulse, the polarization will be rotated proportionally to the strength of the magnetic field inside the matrial in between (Faraday rotation). So you can use a circularly polarized pump pulse to introduce some polarization of the spins inside the material, which will then undergo a free induction decay. Now you can again vary the arrival time of the linearly polarized probe pulse and check how much the polarization of the probe beam was rotated inside the sample and therefore you get to know the time dependence of the magnetic field inside the sample with high time resolution.

These are just two possible applications. In principle pump-probe techniques can be used any time, you can initialize some state and are able to get some information about this state by checking the transmitted light. Of course the probe must be weak compared to the pump. Otherwise the probe already changes the state you initialized drastically. If you use lock-in-amplifiers, you are even able to see very small effects.
 
Thank you soooooooooooooo much. It really helps.

Cthugha said:
Sure, that is possible.



That is possible, too. Generally speaking, pump-probe is a technique, which is useful for a whole bunch of experiments. It is very versatile and can be applied to a lot of situations, so there is no general answer to your questions, so let me just explain some examples.

In many - but not in all - experiments the transmission of the probe beam is of interest. So imagine you have a sample containing some two-level emitters, maybe atoms or quantum dots or whatever. Now you shine a weak pump pulse (resonant with some interesting transition) on that sample and measure the transmission. As you will see, most of the incoming pulse will be absorbed and there won't be much transmission. Now you turn on a strong pump beam, which is also resonant with the transition, but hits the sample under some angle, so that you do not measure the transmission of this beam. If the pump beam is strong enough, you will excite some of the two-level systems to the upper state. Accordingly, the transmission of the probe beam will increase, too, because there re now fewer atoms to excite. So compared to the first case, the differential transmission will have increased. If you choose an even large intensity for the pump beam, you might even see stimulated emission caused by the probe beam and therefore the intensity of the probe pulse after the sample will be higher than the bare probe beam alone. Now the really interesting thing is the high time resolution you can achieve with this kind of experiment.

If you use a strong pump beam, you might imagine that the excitation of the atoms has some temporal shape. The number of the atoms in the upper state will rise quickly and afterwards show some exponential decay due to spontaneous emission in most cases. Now you send the probe beam over some delay line so that you can change the relative time between the impact of the pump and the probe pulse. Now you scan the delay by moving the delay line and therefore get data about how many atoms are in the excited state at a time t after the pump pulse has arrived. As light is traveling so fast, you can get a time resolution in the femtosecond range by moving the delay line, which is one of the main advantages of this techniques.

As another application, you can also check, how fast spin polarization of an ensemble of two-level atoms decays. If you use a linearly polarized probe pulse, the polarization will be rotated proportionally to the strength of the magnetic field inside the matrial in between (Faraday rotation). So you can use a circularly polarized pump pulse to introduce some polarization of the spins inside the material, which will then undergo a free induction decay. Now you can again vary the arrival time of the linearly polarized probe pulse and check how much the polarization of the probe beam was rotated inside the sample and therefore you get to know the time dependence of the magnetic field inside the sample with high time resolution.

These are just two possible applications. In principle pump-probe techniques can be used any time, you can initialize some state and are able to get some information about this state by checking the transmitted light. Of course the probe must be weak compared to the pump. Otherwise the probe already changes the state you initialized drastically. If you use lock-in-amplifiers, you are even able to see very small effects.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
18
Views
3K
  • · Replies 45 ·
2
Replies
45
Views
13K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K