Why is chlorine the central atom in a chlorate ion

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The discussion revolves around the reasoning behind chlorine being the central atom in the chlorate ion. Participants explore concepts related to Lewis structures, electronegativity, and the characteristics of central atoms in molecular structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the teacher mentioned the central atom is the one with the fewest valence electrons, questioning if that would imply oxygen should be central instead of chlorine.
  • Another participant suggests that Group 7 elements, like chlorine, are more electronegative, which might lead to them being central when bonded with multiple other elements.
  • A participant states that typically, the central atom has lower electronegativity than the surrounding ligands, citing chlorine's position in the periodic table as a factor.
  • One participant reiterates the idea that chlorine's lower electronegativity compared to oxygen could explain its central position.
  • Another participant challenges the reasoning by suggesting that the equivalence of the oxygens in the chlorate ion necessitates chlorine's central position, indicating that the appropriateness of this explanation may vary based on the question's complexity.

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Participants express differing views on the criteria for determining the central atom, particularly regarding electronegativity and valence electrons. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the reasoning behind chlorine's central position.

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There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding electronegativity and valence electrons, as well as the potential for exceptions in different chemical contexts. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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I know that when you draw the lewis structure for chlorate, the chlorine goes in the center with the oxygen bonded to it. What I don't understand is that the teacher told me that the central atom is the element with the fewest valence electrons. So wouldn't that make oxygen the central atom?
This is what I think:
Is it because the Group 7 elements are the most electronegative so when given a compound where there is 1 of the Group 7 element and 2 or more of elements in the other groups, then the Group 7 element will always be central?
 
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In most cases, the central atom will have a lower electronegativity than the ligands.
This is true with metal ions, which have less valence electrons than typical ligands like oxygen etc, but it is also true for chlorine as electronegativity decreases down one column in the periodic system. Nevertheless there are exceptions also to this rule, e.g. in organophosphorus componds where some alkyl function acts as a ligand.
 
DrDu said:
In most cases, the central atom will have a lower electronegativity than the ligands.
This is true with metal ions, which have less valence electrons than typical ligands like oxygen etc, but it is also true for chlorine as electronegativity decreases down one column in the periodic system. Nevertheless there are exceptions also to this rule, e.g. in organophosphorus componds where some alkyl function acts as a ligand.

So the reason why chlorine is the central atom is because it has a lower electronegativity than oxygen?
 
Coco12 said:
So the reason why chlorine is the central atom is because it has a lower electronegativity than oxygen?

I wouldn't say that's the reason as such, more that it's been shown that all the oxygens are equivalent, and for that to be the case, the chlorine has to be in the middle. Whether this is at the right level of answer may depend on the level of the question.
 

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