Why is ET such a magnet for loonatics?

[DaveC426913]

It would be wrong to claim with certainty that there is no life elsewhere in the universe considering how vast the universe is. There is a good possibility that life exists elsewhere, but it likely is very different from anything we have here on earth. It is entirely feasible that there exist advanced intelligent lifeforms out there, but they would still be constrained by the same physical laws that apply to us. People often forget this crucial limitation. Technological advancement can only get you so far so to speak...

Agreed on all points.

 

[alt]

It would be wrong to claim with certainty that there is no life elsewhere in the universe considering how vast the universe is. There is a good possibility that life exists elsewhere, but it likely is very different from anything we have here on earth. It is entirely feasible that there exist advanced intelligent lifeforms out there, but they would still be constrained by the same physical laws that apply to us. People often forget this crucial limitation. Technological advancement can only get you so far so to speak...

And how far is that ?

(DaveC, thank you for your as always, enlightening and considered reply, #59. Hope to post a brief response soon)

 

[alt]

Yes, I think it is safe to say that, considering the breadth of the universe, and accepting the possibility of ET, one must allow for the possibility of god-like creatures.

Yes.

But note:

It is also safe to say that, considering the breadth of the universe, and not believing in ET, one must still allow for the possibility of god-like creatures.

That's an interesting point - fascinating in fact. You know forum rules better than I do - if you think it wouldn't violate rules, please elucidate.

i.e. Alt, you must allow for the possibility too, despite your beliefs to the contrary. Because, frankly your argument that there are no ETs (and therefore no possibility that any might be god-like) is indefensible.

I agree it is probably an indefensible argument, but it's not the argument I was making. I don't think I ever went to the negative, and said there is no God / god like creatures. I do have some views .. or rather, suppositions concerning God, but it is clear that this thread, indeed, pf, is not the place to discuss these.

It's the diff between what you think is probably true, and what you must still allow the possibility for.

Yes - it can get murky. Thanks for clarifying it a little.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Technological advancement can only get you so far so to speak...

Yes, but how far, exactly?

 

[nucl34rgg]

Yes, but how far, exactly?

That's a good question! :D

 

[lostprophets]

What does it even mean to be god like. Are you counting technology? If you count technology, then it could be the case that evolution toward god likeness could accelerate once certain breakthroughs take place.

The point we are at now is an example. Will technology soon make forms of immortality possible? It already allows us to fly, clone creatures, harness electricity, travel to the moon etc. Certainly, ancient man might have considered this god like.

How about the possibility that genetic engineering, nano technology, etc, make it possible for us to artificially evolve ourselves?

But I don't think we will ever be able to make ecosystems out of clay in seven days.

god like to me means everything.technology and life,life and technology. to create everything "like" but not the same

to the op..there are loons everywhere into everything