Why is My Second-Order Reaction Rate Calculation Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around a participant's difficulty in calculating the rate of a second-order reaction using the formula r = k*C^2. The focus is on the calculation process, rounding of results, and unit representation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant applies the formula r = k*C^2 with specific values but receives feedback that the answer is incorrect.
  • Another participant questions whether the result is properly rounded and emphasizes the importance of units in the calculation.
  • Concerns are raised about rounding the result from 0.07 to 0.075, with one participant providing a detailed calculation that suggests a different rounded value of 0.074.
  • There is a discussion about the correct representation of units, with one participant noting a discrepancy in how the units were written in the original post.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct rounding of the calculated rate and the proper representation of units. There is no consensus on the correct answer or the reason for the initial incorrect feedback.

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Participants mention significant figures and unit representation, indicating potential limitations in the calculation process. There is also a lack of clarity regarding the expected format for the answer.

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Homework Statement
Butadiene can be react with itself to form a dimer molecule. The reaction is second order in butadiene. The value of the rate constant is 7.7 x 10-3 M-1 s-1.

What is the initial rate consumption of butadiene in a reactor filled with butadiene to a concentration of 3.091 M? Express your answer in M/s.
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r = k*C^2
Hello,

I have a doubt in an exercise about rate of reaction. The statement is quoted above and the reaction scheme is the following:
Esquema reação butadieno.png


As the reaction is second order, I tried to apply the formula r = k*C^2.

Where r = rate of reaction
k = rate constant
C = concentration

So, I got:
r = (7.7e-3)*(3,091)^2 = 0,073 M

However, this not correct. I know it because when I click the "Send answer" button, it says "incorrect". Furthermore, the "Show answer" button doesn't display the answer.

Could anyone give some help?

Thanks a lot.
 
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guiromero said:
So, I got:
r = (7.7e-3)*(3,091)^2 = 0,073 M
Is this result properly rounded? (Also, careful with the units.)
 
I tried to round from 0.07 to 0.075 and it didn't work.
The units are ok, as k[M^-1*s^-1] * C^2[M^2] = r[M * s^-1]
 
guiromero said:
I tried to round from 0.07 to 0.075 and it didn't work.
In my calculator,
$$
7.7 \times 10^{-3} (3.091)^2 = 0.073567963
$$
which, rounding to two significant figures, should give 0.074. You might try also 0.0736 or 0.07357 in case the preprogrammed solution was entered with an incorrect number of significant figures.

guiromero said:
The units are ok, as k[M^-1*s^-1] * C^2[M^2] = r[M * s^-1]
It's just that you wrote the units as M instead of M/s in the OP.
 
DrClaude said:
In my calculator,
$$
7.7 \times 10^{-3} (3.091)^2 = 0.073567963
$$
which, rounding to two significant figures, should give 0.074. You might try also 0.0736 or 0.07357 in case the preprogrammed solution was entered with an incorrect number of significant figures.It's just that you wrote the units as M instead of M/s in the OP.
I tried the values that you mentioned but it didn't work.
I think what you trying to say is the units of rate. I put M*s^-1 for M/s. I don't know if this is what you mean.
 
guiromero said:
So, I got:
r = (7.7e-3)*(3,091)^2 = 0,073 M
You wrote M instead of M s-1.
 
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DrClaude said:
You wrote M instead of M s-1.
Oh yes, thanks.
 

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