Why is My Voltage Lower than Standard Cell Potential?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the observed voltage in a Galvanic cell setup, specifically why the measured voltage is lower than the expected standard cell potential. Participants explore factors affecting the voltage, including the salt bridge, concentration of electrolytes, and the role of the voltmeter.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the voltage obtained was lower than the standard cell potential and questions whether the salt bridge's effectiveness could be a factor.
  • Another participant inquires about the specific metals used in the cell and the extent of the voltage discrepancy.
  • A participant suggests that adding more filter paper strips to the salt bridge increased the voltage, raising questions about the conductivity of the salt bridge.
  • One participant reports that diluting the zinc ions in the solution resulted in an increased voltage, prompting inquiries about the underlying reasons for this effect.
  • Another participant explains that the observed voltage will deviate from the standard potential once the current flows, due to changes in ion concentrations, and references the Nernst equation as a relevant concept.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of the initial solutions' concentrations and the potential for error in the setup.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the factors affecting the voltage, with no consensus on the primary cause of the discrepancy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific contributions of the salt bridge, ion concentration, and measurement accuracy.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the Nernst equation and the importance of initial concentrations, but there are unresolved assumptions about the setup and the effects of dilution on the reaction.

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I have set up a Galvanic cell and used filter paper that is soaked in KCl as salt bridge. The electrolyte I used is 1M and the experiment is carried out in room temperature. However, I am unable to obtain the standard cell potential. The voltage values I obtained was lower.

I was thinking maybe the salt bridge is not good enough, so I added more filter paper strips. The voltage did increase, but I thought the salt bridge should not affect the results?

Is it impossible to obtain the standard cell potential? Could it be the resistance of the voltmeter? Thanks!
 
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How far off are you? What two metals are you using?
 
try this http://www.science.uwaterloo.ca/~cchieh/cact/c123/halfcell.html"
 
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Thanks!

I am using copper and zinc in copper (II) sulphate and zinc sulphate solutions. The voltage i obtained is about 0.3 volt away from the standard 1.1 volt after i added more layers of filter papers.

I tried to decrease the zinc ions in the solution by diluting the solution and the voltage increased. Why is that so?
 
Calle said:
I am using copper and zinc in copper (II) sulphate and zinc sulphate solutions. The voltage i obtained is about 0.3 volt away from the standard 1.1 volt after i added more layers of filter papers.

It could be that the salt bridge is not very conductive for some reason. Adding additional papers lowers the resistance of the circut.

Calle said:
I tried to decrease the zinc ions in the solution by diluting the solution and the voltage increased. Why is that so?

In this redox couple which metal is being oxidized (solubilized) and which is reduced? For the metal that is oxidized, the soluble ion of that metal represents the product of the reaction. How might removing (through dilution) the product of the oxidation (soluble metal ion) affect the reaction? Review the Nernst equation.
 
>>> Is it impossible to obtain the standard cell potential?

No, but if I can remember correctly this should only occur briefly. When both Copper and Zinc are both 1M in solution it should be at standard potential...as soon as the current starts running the concentration of one ion in solution increases while the other decreases...the moment that happens the observed voltage starts to change away from the standard potential (when you changed the zinc concentration in solution a similar effect occurred). As chemistree said the Nernst equation describes this.

If you are far off from expectations, it might be wise to check the copper and zinc solutions you are using for the inital voltage check (check the molarity of each with titration and very carefully prepare each at 1M for the initial voltage reading...probably this would be the source of error).
 

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