Why is neutron star interesting to physics ?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of neutron stars in the field of physics, particularly focusing on their properties, potential applications, and theoretical connections to other exotic objects like quark stars. Participants explore various aspects of neutron stars, including their extreme densities, magnetic fields, and the phenomena associated with them.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the properties of matter inside neutron stars are of particular interest to theoretical physics.
  • Others highlight the extreme densities and enormous magnetic fields of neutron stars as key areas of study.
  • There are discussions about neutron stars serving as precise "clocks" for measuring gravitational waves.
  • Some participants mention the phenomenon of "starquakes" and the potential for neutron stars to produce heavy elements during mergers.
  • One participant emphasizes the fundamental reason for studying neutron stars: their existence and the desire to understand them, despite the lack of immediate applications to everyday life.
  • There is a mention of quark stars as a theoretical counterpart to neutron stars, with some participants speculating on their existence and properties.
  • Discussions arise about the distinctions between quark stars and black holes, particularly regarding their density and the implications of the Schwarzschild radius.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether certain observed objects might actually be quark stars or neutron stars, given their similar characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the significance and properties of neutron stars, with no clear consensus on the existence or characteristics of quark stars. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the distinctions between neutron stars and black holes, as well as the implications of their densities.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on theoretical frameworks, such as the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit, and the unresolved nature of certain properties related to quark stars and their potential existence.

Leonardo Machado
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I've seen many people who is studying it.. but why ? is there any contributions to physics at a foundamentalist level ? I mean, the properties of matter inside nêutron stars is the interesting part to theoretical physics and not the whole object right ?
 
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There are many reasons. Some people are interested in studying the properties of matter at these extreme densities. Others are interested in studying the enormous magnetic fields (as high as 10^15 Gauss) that some neutron stars have. Spinning neutrons stars are some of the most accurate "clocks" in the universe. Some people are studying how to use arrays of these accurate clocks to measure gravitational waves. Still others are studying how the radiation that we see is produced. Yet another interesting phenomenon is that neutron stars appear to have "starquakes" where the crust changes state that release enormous amounts of energy. We've also heard recently that many scientists think that the heaviest elements are produced from "decompressed" neutron star matter that is flung into space when two neutron stars merge. I could go on...
 
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The first and most important reason: They exist. If something exists, we want to understand it.

Applications elsewhere can be interesting as well, but then you can ask what are the applications of these? What are the applications of gravitational waves?

There is no known application of things we can learn from neutron stars for everyday life on Earth today. That doesn't mean there cannot be applications, but if there are we first have to find them. To have a chance to find them, we have to study neutron stars. History is full of applications that came from fields where no application was expected.
 
Another interesting thing is that neutron stars are little brothers of a theoretical object called quark stars that nobody has found yet.
 
newjerseyrunner said:
Another interesting thing is that neutron stars are little brothers of a theoretical object called quark stars that nobody has found yet.
Or perhaps we have found them, but we call them something else - like black holes, for example.
 
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|Glitch| said:
Or perhaps we have found them, but we call them something else - like black holes, for example.
No, quark stars are held up by quark degeneracy pressure and will still glow with radiation. Black holes have collapsed beyond that.

We may have found some, but think they are neutron stars because they’d be nearly indistinguishable from each other.
 
newjerseyrunner said:
No, quark stars are held up by quark degeneracy pressure and will still glow with radiation. Black holes have collapsed beyond that.

We may have found some, but think they are neutron stars because they’d be nearly indistinguishable from each other.
They may still glow with radiation, but if their density makes them smaller than their Schwarzschild radius then nobody is going to be able to see that glowing radiation.

According to the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit, neutron stars become black holes once they exceed 3 solar masses. The largest neutron star we've discovered thus far was PSR J1614–2230 at ~1.97 solar masses. The least massive black hole yet discovered was XTE J1650-500 at 3.8 ± 0.5 solar masses. Quark stars would have to appear in that 1.83 solar mass range difference between the neutron stars and black holes that we know about. They would be denser than neutron stars, but not as dense as black holes. The real question is whether or not a quark star would be dense enough to be smaller than its Schwarzschild radius?
 
|Glitch| said:
but if their density makes them smaller than their Schwarzschild radius
... then they are black holes and collapse.
 
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Yeah, you can’t have a quark star inside of a black hole because the Schwartzschild radius is where all paths point in so there is no causal way that any kind of pressure could continue to hold it up. A quark star would have to be a very specific size but would be categorically different than a neutron star.
 

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