Why is \sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} when \theta = 2?

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of an integral involving a trigonometric substitution, specifically addressing the transition from the expression $$\sqrt{8} \sin(2)$$ to the conclusion that $$\sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$$ when $$\theta = 2$$. Participants explore the steps involved in the substitution and the implications for the limits of integration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how plugging in $$2$$ for $$\theta$$ leads to $$\sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$$.
  • Another participant requests the original problem statement to clarify the context of the question.
  • A participant provides background on their integral setup and substitution process, noting the relationships between $$x$$ and $$\theta$$.
  • A later reply discusses the need to solve for $$\theta$$ from the equation $$2 = \sqrt{8} \sin(\theta)$$ rather than directly substituting $$0$$ and $$2$$ into the trigonometric functions.
  • One participant questions the correctness of their work after performing the integral and expresses uncertainty about the final answer.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the re-worked integral and mentions that an external tool supports their result.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the transition from the expression to the conclusion regarding $$\sin\theta$$. There are multiple competing views on the correct interpretation of the substitution and the limits of integration.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity in the substitution process and the interpretation of limits, as well as potential misunderstandings regarding the relationship between the variables involved in the integral.

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I know this is easy but I am getting hung up on this problem for some reason.

Suppose we have $$\sqrt{8}sin\theta$$ and we plug in $$2$$ for $$\theta$$.

$$\sqrt{8}sin(2).$$

how are they then coming to the conclusion of $$\sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$$

That makes NO sense! We just plugged a $$2$$ in for $$\theta$$! Where does the extra $$\theta $$ come from?!
 
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I'm afraid you're going to have to give us some context for this question. Can you please give us the original problem statement, word-for-word?

(As a side note, you can't go from an expression to an equation, so yes, I'm very puzzled by that transition myself.)
 
My teacher has left out some weird step that I am missing! Originally I am solving this $$2$$ $$\int^2_0 \sqrt{8 - x^2} - \frac{1}{2}x^2 dx$$

Ignore the second, that is easy so I split it up into two different integrals. Here is what I have so far, notice I am only doing the first one.

$$2 \int^2_0 \sqrt{8 -x^2} dx$$

$$2 \int^2_0 \sqrt{8 - \sin^2\theta} * \sqrt{8}\cos\theta d\theta$$

Also note that I have: $$1 - \sin^2\theta = cos^2\theta$$
$$8 - 8\sin^2\theta = 8\cos^2\theta$$
$$ x^2 = 8sin^2\theta$$
$$ x = \sqrt{8}\sin\theta$$
$$ dx = \sqrt{8}\cos\theta \, d\theta$$

So now since I've done the substitution i need to update the limits... So my teacher said ok plug in the old limits into x.. Which I understand the first limit. He plugs in a 0. $$\sqrt{8}sin(0) $$= 0 thus the lower limit is 0 but for the upper limit he plugs in a 2 ...$$\sqrt{8}sin(2)$$ and somehow gets $$2 = \sqrt{8}sin\theta$$ which becomes
$$sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} $$

Like what am I missing here??
 
Ah, thanks much for that background. Let's consider this integral:
$$\int_{0}^{2} \sqrt{8-x^{2}} \, dx.$$
I would indeed do a trig substitution. I think you have a bit of ambiguity in your substitution. Draw a right triangle, angle $\theta$, hypotenuse $\sqrt{8}$, and opposite side $x$. Then the adjacent side is $\sqrt{8-x^{2}}$. You have that
\begin{align*}
\frac{x}{ \sqrt{8}}&= \sin(\theta) \\
\frac{dx}{ \sqrt{8}}&= \cos(\theta) \, d\theta \\
\frac{ \sqrt{8-x^{2}}}{ \sqrt{8}}&= \cos( \theta)
\end{align*}
That will enable you do substitute in for the integrand and the differential. Now, the limits: $0$ and $2$ are $x$ values, because that is the variable in the differential. To get to $\theta$ values, you have to solve $0= \sqrt{8} \sin(\theta)$ for $\theta$, as well as $2= \sqrt{8} \sin( \theta)$ for $\theta$. There's no plugging $0$ or $2$ into the trig functions, because that's a category mistake: $0$ and $2$ are $x$-values, not $\theta$-values. Does that answer your question?
 
Thanks so much!
 
So is my work correct?$$2 \int ^\frac{\pi}{4}_0$$

$$2 \int ^\frac{\pi}{4}_0 \sqrt{8} cos\theta * \sqrt{8}cos\theta$$$$2 \int ^\frac{\pi}{4}_0 8 cos^2\theta$$

then I brought the 8 out and got$$16 [ \theta - \frac{1}{2} sin2\theta] |^{\pi/4}_0$$
 
I don;'t understand what I've done wrong. How are they getting $$2\pi + \frac{4}{3} $$ as the final answer?
 
Yes, I think your re-worked integral is correct. WolframAlpha confirms your result, both the original and the re-worked integral.
 

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