Why is the All but Finitely Many Theorem Important?

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The discussion revolves around the "all but finitely many" theorem, particularly its implications and validity in the context of sequences in metric spaces. Participants explore the theorem's assumptions and its role in proving the uniqueness of limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the theorem stating that if S is a countably infinite set and A, B are subsets such that both S\backslash A and S\backslash B are finite, then A ∩ B must be non-empty.
  • Another participant challenges this assumption by providing a counterexample using the set of integers, arguing that A ∩ B can indeed be non-empty while S\backslash A and S\backslash B are finite.
  • A later reply suggests a hint regarding the relationship between the sets and proposes that if A ∩ B were empty, it would lead to a contradiction based on the cardinality of S.
  • Further clarification is provided on the union of finite sets and how it relates to the theorem, emphasizing that the union of two finite sets remains finite.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the theorem's assumptions, with one participant providing a counterexample and others attempting to clarify the implications of the theorem. The discussion remains unresolved as differing viewpoints are presented.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which the theorem holds, particularly concerning the definitions of the sets involved and the implications of their cardinalities.

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"All but finitely many" theorem

Let [itex]S[/itex] be a set with cardinality [itex]|S|=\aleph_0[/itex]. Let [itex]A,B \subseteq S[/itex]. Let [itex]S\backslash A[/itex] and [itex]S\backslash B[/itex] be finite. Then [itex]A \cap B \neq \varnothing[/itex].

How can this be shown? I came across it as an assumption in a proof that a sequence in a metric space can converge to at most one limit.
 
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There's something wrong with that assumption. I'll show you a counterexample.

S = the set of integers
A = all integers except 0
B = all integers except 1

S-A = {0}
S-B = {1}

##A\cap B## = all integers except 0 and 1
##A\cap B## ≠ ∅.

Also, you don't need any assumptions that look anything like that to prove that limits with respect to a metric are unique, but you probably know that. ##x_n\to x## means that every open ball around x contains all but a finite number of terms of the sequence. So if ##x_n\to x##, ##x_n\to y## and x≠y, just define r=(1/2)d(x,y) and consider the open balls B(x,r) and B(y,r). Since all but a finite number of terms are in B(x,r), and since B(y,r) is disjoint from B(x,r), B(y,r) contains at most a finite number of terms. This contradicts the assumption that ##x_n\to y##.

Edit: Apparently I can't even read today. thought your post said =∅, not ≠∅.
 
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Hint:

[tex]S\setminus (A\cap B)=?[/tex]
 


micromass said:
Hint:

[tex]S\setminus (A\cap B)=?[/tex]

Ah, I see, thanks!

[itex]S\setminus (A\cap B) = (S\setminus A)\cup (S\setminus B).[/itex]

If [itex]A\cap B = \varnothing[/itex], then [itex]S\setminus (A\cap B) = S\setminus \varnothing = S[/itex]. So [itex](S\setminus A)\cup (S\setminus B) = S[/itex]. But [itex]|S|=\aleph_0[/itex], whereas [itex]S\setminus A[/itex] and [itex]S\setminus B[/itex] are each finite, and the union of two finite sets is finite. Contradiction. Therefore [itex]A\cap B \neq \varnothing[/itex].

To see that the union of two finite sets is finite, let [itex]P,Q[/itex] be finite. [itex]P\cup Q = P\cup (Q\setminus P)[/itex]. As a subset of a finite set, [itex]Q\setminus P[/itex] is finite. As a http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/CardinalityOfDisjointUnionOfFiniteSets.html , [itex]|P\cup (Q\setminus P)| = |P| + |Q\setminus P|[/itex]. So [itex]|P\cup Q|=|P\cup (Q\setminus P)|=|P| + |Q\setminus P| \in \left \{ 0 \right \}\cup \mathbb{N}[/itex].
 
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