Why is the CFSE for d6 not equal to -24Dq+3p in crystal field theory?

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The discussion centers on the calculation of crystal field stabilization energy (CFSE) for d6 electron configurations in the context of crystal field theory, particularly in strong field cases. Participants explore the values attributed to CFSE and the reasoning behind them, questioning the treatment of pairing energy in the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants present CFSE values for various d-electron configurations, suggesting that for d6, CFSE should be -24Dq + 2p.
  • Others question why the CFSE for d6 is not represented as -24Dq + 3p, arguing that with the addition of the sixth electron, three pairing interactions should contribute to the CFSE.
  • A participant references a source to support their view on the octahedral nature of the complex and the implications for CFSE calculations.
  • There is a suggestion that the specific metal-ligand complex could influence whether the low-spin (LS) or high-spin (HS) state is relevant, potentially affecting the CFSE outcome.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct CFSE expression for d6 configurations, with no consensus reached on whether it should include 2p or 3p. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriate treatment of pairing energy in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the calculations may depend on the specific metal-ligand complex and the spin state, which could influence the CFSE values. There are references to external materials that may provide additional context but do not resolve the disagreement.

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at crystal field stabilization in strong field case
d4 CFSE=-16Dq+p
d5 CFSE=-20Dq+2p
d6 CFSE=-24Dq+2p
d7 CFSE=-18Dq+p
d8 CFSE=-12Dq
it was shuld be +3P and +4 P
why it be +p,2p,2p,p ?
 
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flashmanbs said:
at crystal field stabilization in strong field case
d4 CFSE=-16Dq+p
d5 CFSE=-20Dq+2p
d6 CFSE=-24Dq+2p
d7 CFSE=-18Dq+p
d8 CFSE=-12Dq
it was shuld be +3P and +4 P
why it be +p,2p,2p,p ?


Why do you believe that it should be + 3 and + 4? What equation are you using?
 
my Q explain why the CFSE =-24Dq+2p at d6 not =-24Dq+3p?
like u see in fig. if we put the 6`th electron we have 3 paring set so we was should add 3p to the CFSE why we count them as 2P?
2628rbc.jpg
 
flashmanbs said:
my Q explain why the CFSE =-24Dq+2p at d6 not =-24Dq+3p?
like u see in fig. if we put the 6`th electron we have 3 paring set so we was should add 3p to the CFSE why we count them as 2P?
2628rbc.jpg

You are right for this case where its Octahedral , scroll the link to page 9

http://www.chemistry.ucsc.edu/~tholman/Chem151A/LectureNotes/Week2.pdf

Is this an Octahedral complex? Also did they mention a specific metal ligand complex ; sometimes an LS becomes HS should the actual CFSE is found to be positive with the incorporation of the pairing energy?
 
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