Why Is the Force on Charges in Conducting Sphere Cavities Zero?

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The discussion revolves around an electrostatics problem involving a neutral conducting sphere with two spherical cavities containing point charges. Participants are exploring why the force on these charges is zero, regardless of external charge distributions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the implications of Gauss's Law and the behavior of electric fields within conductors. Questions arise about the nature of electric fields in cavities and the conditions under which forces on charges are zero.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the zero force on the charges. Some participants provide insights into the symmetry of electric fields and surface charge distributions, while others express uncertainty about their understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the charges are located in cavities, which may influence the electric field behavior compared to charges located within the conductor itself. There is also mention of the need for spherically symmetric charge distributions to achieve zero electric fields at specific points.

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[SOLVED] electrostatics problem

Homework Statement


Two spherical cavities, of radii a and b, are hollowed out from the interior of a (neutral) conducting sphere of radius R. At the center of each cavity a point charge is placed--call these charges q_a and q_b.
Why is it necessarily true that the force on q_a and q_b is 0? Why is it true that the force is still zero no matter what kind of charge distribution you have outside the conductor.


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You can use Gauss's Law to find the electric field in each cavity. And you find that it is as the charge were isolated in space. But that doesn't tell you the electric field at the charge...only around it, right?
 
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*is a little rusty on the subject*

conducting sphere means that, if there is an electric field in the conducting sphere, then the electrons in the conducting sphere will move as to create an electric field to cancel the electric field in place, right?

That would answer you question, because E=0 => F=0

but I must admit I'm not completely convinced of my answer
 
But q_a and q_b are in cavities, not in the meat of the conductor.
 
Draw a Gaussian sphere in the conductor, just outside one cavity. The E field is zero everywhere on the sphere. This can only happen if the surface charge on the inside of the cavity is spherically symmetric, i.e. constant. Then the field at the center of the spherical cavity will be zero, giving zero force on the point charge. This only happens at the center of the cavity. There would be a force on a charge at other points in the cavity.
 
pam said:
Draw a Gaussian sphere in the conductor, just outside one cavity. The E field is zero everywhere on the sphere. This can only happen if the surface charge on the inside of the cavity is spherically symmetric, i.e. constant. Then the field at the center of the spherical cavity will be zero, giving zero force on the point charge. This only happens at the center of the cavity. There would be a force on a charge at other points in the cavity.

I was going to say exactly the same thing.
 

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